# Energy cost of Hummer vs Prius **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 8, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791 "2007-05-08T05:45:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/1 "2007-05-08T05:45:23Z")
Interesting article from Machine Design comparing the life cycle energy cost of an H2 Hummer vs a Prius. Of course if hybrids are produced in larger quantities, the numbers could change. ---
**Author:** ![85TransAm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/e68b1a/32.png) [@85TransAm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/85TransAm)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/2 "2007-05-08T05:53:02Z")
I have Environmental science next period and global warming is a major topic. Can’t wait to show my teacher this… so much for hybrids ---
**Author:** ![obi-1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@obi-1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/obi-1)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/3 "2007-05-08T05:57:33Z")
I saw that article, too. That’s crazy. Maybe the costs will go down when more “plug in” hybrids become available? ---
**Author:** ![S10Blazed\_Si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s10blazed_si/32/5983_2.png) [@S10Blazed\_Si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S10Blazed_Si)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/4 "2007-05-08T06:29:30Z")
I wonder how ethanol vehicles would compare? ---
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/5 "2007-05-08T07:17:03Z")
> [@Do you hate blacks or the cot damn jews?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-hate-blacks-or-the-cot-damn-jews/30052/18): > > I wonder how ethanol vehicles would compare? I guess you’d also have to factor in what it takes to process gasoline vs ethanol. And what about bio-diesel? Doesn’t it take a huge amount of corn to make a gallon of fuel? ---
**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/6 "2007-05-08T18:01:47Z")
I posted something similar to this a few months ago. definitely raises questions ---
**Author:** ![taco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@taco](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/taco)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/7 "2007-05-08T19:16:57Z")
I wonder how a honda civic or chevy cobalt compares. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/8 "2007-05-09T05:39:05Z")
> [@an ebay what should i do question...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/an-ebay-what-should-i-do-question/30039/6): > > I wonder how a honda civic or chevy cobalt compares. You would think they’d have to be better than both. All the positives about the Hummer would be the same for the Civic/Cobalt, but with better gas mileage and less material. :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![Corners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Corners](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Corners)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/9 "2007-05-14T19:54:28Z")
If you look up the actual data, you’ll find several model cars. Look here: [http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/](http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/) At the bottom of the page you’ll find a link to a spreadsheet ranking cars. Here’s the link: [http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/Cost%20per%20mile%20by%20segment%20by%20model%20and%20sorts.xls](http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/Cost%20per%20mile%20by%20segment%20by%20model%20and%20sorts.xls) Here’s the rankings: Model, Dust to Dust$ Per Mile xB $0.492 Neon $0.641 Tracker $0.665 Ion $0.670 Wrangler $0.709 Corolla $0.720 Aveo $0.744 Elantra $0.748 xA $0.759 S10 $0.761 Echo $0.776 Prot?g? $0.781 Focus $0.788 tC $0.801 Cavalier $0.802 Sunfire $0.820 Spectra $0.828 Accent $0.828 Aerio $0.902 Sentra $0.906 Fit $0.911 Versa $0.929 Yaris $0.936 Ranger $0.961 G5 $0.965 Cobalt $0.969 Forenza/Reno $0.993 Rio $0.994 Matrix \*\* $1.012 Mazda3 $1.022 Vibe $1.023 Lancer $1.038 Rabbit $1.039 Liberty $1.066 Canyon $1.116 Tacoma $1.123 Colorado $1.126 B-Series $1.140 Sonoma $1.150 Caliber $1.171 Dakota $1.229 Sebring $1.286 Sportage $1.305 Frontier $1.350 Impala $1.353 Sorento $1.376 Crown Victoria $1.377 LeSabre $1.379 Blazer $1.413 Grand Vitara $1.430 Grand Prix $1.438 Amanti $1.461 Vitara $1.463 CR-V $1.466 i-280/i-350 $1.491 Tiburon $1.496 Grand Marquis $1.496 9-5 $1.545 Raider $1.551 Durango $1.572 Altima $1.572 XL-7 $1.572 3 Series $1.586 Mazda5 $1.587 Taurus $1.592 Monte Carlo $1.609 Explorer $1.612 TrailBlazer $1.616 XG350/Azera $1.618 9-2 $1.625 Aura $1.636 S2000 $1.638 9-3 $1.640 CTS $1.640 Mazda6 $1.642 PT Cruiser $1.642 Sable $1.643 Crossfire $1.644 Lucerne $1.644 Galant $1.691 C class $1.692 Rodeo $1.698 Mustang $1.700 Ridgeline $1.724 TSX $1.752 A4/S4 $1.797 Grand Cherokee $1.808 Vue $1.815 Equinox $1.839 G35 $1.844 Jetta $1.847 RAV4 $1.854 Beetle $1.855 Solstice $1.874 Park Avenue $1.876 Escape $1.881 MR2 Spyder $1.881 Bonneville $1.882 Element $1.901 I30/I35 $1.903 ES 330 $1.903 Legacy $1.903 MX-5 Miata $1.904 Mariner $1.914 Verona $1.918 MPV $1.929 Forester $1.938 Safari $1.943 Accord $1.960 Freelander $1.960 Mini Cooper $1.960 Malibu $1.962 Passat $1.970 Sonata $1.982 Torrent $1.982 Avalon $1.986 Ascender $1.989 Compass $2.009 IS 250/350 $2.009 Jetta wagon $2.013 Mini Cooper S $2.016 Optima $2.016 Santa Fe $2.017 Astro $2.027 Xterra $2.046 Commander $2.046 Maxima $2.062 LS $2.065 H3 $2.069 RSX $2.075 Classic $2.075 EOS $2.076 CL $2.076 Sedona $2.077 Sky $2.092 Relay $2.113 Fusion $2.118 LaCrosse $2.132 Outlander $2.140 Zephyr $2.142 40 series $2.144 Celica $2.144 4Runner $2.150 Caravan/Grand Caravan $2.165 Rondo $2.166 X-Type $2.166 Uplander $2.166 Axiom $2.168 9-7X $2.168 Charger $2.169 Endeavor $2.171 Eclipse Spyder $2.193 300/300M $2.197 TL $2.197 Magnum $2.197 Baja $2.210 Sienna $2.221 Freestar $2.223 Pathfinder $2.224 Five Hundred $2.224 Montego $2.224 Econoline van $2.249 Avalanche $2.250 Odyssey $2.250 Pilot $2.255 60 series $2.262 A3 $2.272 Mark LT $2.274 Monterey $2.279 Town & Country $2.303 Eclipse $2.307 Aztek $2.324 Venture $2.326 Envoy $2.338 Impreza $2.339 Grand Am $2.339 Milan $2.340 Entourage $2.340 Tucson $2.340 350Z $2.347 Escalade EXT $2.354 Viper $2.355 B9 Tribeca $2.355 Camry $2.356 Civic $2.361 Montana $2.361 CX-7 $2.367 Sprinter Van $2.374 Express/G Van $2.376 Silverado $2.376 6 Series $2.380 Rainier $2.381 F Series $2.381 Stratus $2.381 Diamante $2.381 Tribute $2.388 Sierra $2.406 Montero Sport $2.408 Lotus $2.408 Ram pickup $2.408 Quest $2.410 HHR $2.420 Montero $2.428 RX8 $2.429 Discovery $2.432 LR3 $2.434 Mountaineer $2.444 Terraza $2.452 Freestyle $2.458 Montana SV6 $2.466 Nitro $2.467 G6 $2.506 X3 $2.513 Highlander $2.534 Cayenne $2.539 QX56 $2.540 Golf/GTI/R32 $2.544 X5 $2.564 FJ Cruiser $2.577 QX4 $2.596 Range Rover Sport $2.602 Savana/G Van $2.602 Econoline/Club Wagon $2.625 Aviator $2.631 Town Car $2.661 GX 470 $2.664 Rendezvous $2.692 CL class $2.692 GTO $2.692 SL Coupe/Roadster $2.799 RL $2.806 911 Carrera/Carrera 4 $2.806 L series $2.807 Prius $2.865 Z8 $2.885 7 Series $2.888 Tundra $2.889 Pacifica $2.892 Murano $2.925 70 series $2.932 Navigator $2.943 Industry Straight Average 2.946 Z4 $2.949 SLR class $2.956 SRX $2.972 MDX $3.014 M class $3.045 TT $3.046 Titan $3.069 FX35/45 $3.071 Aston Martin $3.072 SSR $3.076 50 series $3.102 STS $3.190 Corvette $3.196 5 Series $3.197 Escalade $3.198 Maserati \* $3.219 R class $3.247 SC 430 $3.277 XJ $3.280 LX 470 $3.303 Land Cruiser $3.354 Boxster $3.388 Civic Hybrid $3.398 Accord Hybrid $3.421 Insight $3.453 XC90 $3.456 XLR $3.482 E class $3.483 80 series $3.491 RX330/350 $3.496 Escalade ESV $3.536 Escape Hybrid $3.540 RDX $3.541 Expedition $3.549 DTS $3.567 H2 $3.585 Mariner Hybrid $3.597 Camry Hybrid $3.618 XK $3.620 Highlander Hybrid $3.656 DeVille $3.684 Seville $3.684 Range Rover $3.746 Tahoe $3.759 CLK class $3.771 Yukon $3.783 Q7 $3.886 SLK class $3.986 Suburban $3.988 H1 $4.012 Excursion $4.043 CLS class $4.070 Yukon XL $4.094 Sequoia $4.124 M45 $4.193 GS 350 $4.251 Armada $4.260 Lamborghini $4.271 Ferrari $4.289 Aspen $4.299 GT $4.301 S class $4.316 GS 430 $4.356 Q45 $4.361 GS450h $4.421 S-Type $4.514 RX400h $4.546 G class $4.579 GL class $4.645 Carrera GT $4.727 LS 430 $4.775 Touareg $4.797 NSX $4.994 A8 $5.041 A6 $5.120 Cayman $5.383 allroad quattro $5.936 Bentley $10.631 Rolls-Royce $10.977 Phaeton $12.963 Maybach $15.837 ---
**Author:** ![Corners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Corners](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Corners)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/10 "2007-05-14T19:59:07Z")
> [@Post funny pics of Skunk v1.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-funny-pics-of-skunk-v1-0/30051/12): > > I guess you’d also have to factor in what it takes to process gasoline vs ethanol. And what about bio-diesel? Doesn’t it take a huge amount of corn to make a gallon of fuel? Look at the article again… > The 479-page study is free and well worth digging into. Readers will find, for example, that the fuel a car burns over its lifetime isn’t the largest portion of its energy use, just the most visible. Doesn’t sound like the fuel would have much of an impact of total energy used from dust to dust. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/11 "2007-05-15T04:37:30Z")
> [@Dunnville vs Toronto Motorsports - Track Reviews](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-vs-toronto-motorsports-track-reviews/14935/25): > > Look at the article again… > > Doesn’t sound like the fuel would have much of an impact of total energy used from dust to dust. Hard to tell, it just says it isn’t the largest portion of its energy use, not that it’s negligible. And I’m not interested in reading the 479 page report! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/12 "2007-05-15T20:22:42Z")
Can anyone explain why they show everything in dollars? Is energy cost in dollars really an effective way to show a vehicles impact on the enviroment? Is it reasonalbe to think that company X’s car cost $5.00 to make but $4 of that energy it takes to make comes from solar and wind energy? ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/energy-cost-of-hummer-vs-prius/189791/13 "2007-05-17T12:42:08Z")
damn… a touareg is this? Touareg $4.797 that doesnt’ make sense though… the touareg comes in a v6 a v8 and a tdi v10 model… so wtf did they test? also, how can this: Golf/GTI/R32 $2.544 be the case if these are the same motor in larger cars (not to even mention the r32 comes in a 6cy only and the other are turbo 4’s or na 4’s or 6’s)??? Jetta $1.847 Passat $1.970 sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.