# Engine swap for GA\` **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 23, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307 "2004-02-23T20:44:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/1 "2004-02-23T20:44:51Z")
ok but the 190 hp 2.3 L still isnt that much hp. cant you somehow fit a 3.4 in from an old Lumina Z34??? those ar 200 hp and old Z34’s came with a 5spd. Talk to pewter for prices of those engines. he is good for all sorts of GM parts that you may need ---
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/2 "2004-02-23T20:46:49Z")
3.4 is junk ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Sleeper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sleeper/32/5939_2.png) [@imported\_Sleeper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Sleeper)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/3 "2004-02-23T20:47:49Z")
i agree same as the 3.1 ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/4 "2004-02-23T20:48:13Z")
i like mine, it has a decent bit of power for my daily driver. i mean with a 5spd, this engine would be all sorts of fun ---
**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/5 "2004-02-23T20:48:41Z")
> _Originally posted by BlkP42E_ > **ok but the 190 hp 2.3 L still isnt that much hp. cant you somehow fit a 3.4 in from an old Lumina Z34??? > those ar 200 hp and old Z34’s came with a 5spd.** > > > > **Talk to pewter for prices of those engines. he is good for all sorts of GM parts that you may need** the reason for this swap is because its a direct bolt in with no fabrication. it might not be alot of HP overall but its still respectable for a 4 banger grand am. the achieva SCX ran mid 14s stock. there have been 3400 and 3800s swapped into grand ams of all years but the problem is that most came with auto trannies. the z34 5 spd is a solution but its nearly impossible to make it work in an N-Car. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/6 "2004-02-23T20:49:36Z")
N-car? ---
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/7 "2004-02-23T20:50:12Z")
they are not known to hold up…i had one in a 95 monte carlo z34 and it was junk… pewter will chime in with his ideas…i am sure his opion is the same about the motor what the motor thats in the grand prix like the one orange has that seems like a more durable motor ---
**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/8 "2004-02-23T20:50:59Z")
the 3x00s, Quad 4 and TwinCam might be junk compared to most but what other choice would i have other than buying a honda cause we all know those are the fastest cars out there! intake/exhaust and a wing you running 9s! ---
**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/9 "2004-02-23T20:51:51Z")
> _Originally posted by BlkP42E_ > **N-car?** N-Body ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/10 "2004-02-23T20:51:54Z")
> _Originally posted by slowcamaro_ > **they are not known to hold up…i had one in a 95 monte carlo z34 and it was junk…** > > > > pewter will chime in with his ideas…i am sure his opion is the same about the motor > > **what the motor thats in the grand prix like the one orange has that seems like a more durable motor** > thats what mine is, a 95. im on 98k and it still runs fine and strong. how bad did you whoop on yours? ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/11 "2004-02-23T20:52:17Z")
> _Originally posted by PlayaStyle92GA_ > **N-Body:rolleyes:** > ahhh kinda like f body, or k car 😃 ---
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/12 "2004-02-23T20:52:28Z")
> _Originally posted by PlayaStyle92GA_ > **the reason for this swap is because its a direct bolt in with no fabrication. it might not be alot of HP overall but its still respectable for a 4 banger grand am. the achieva SCX ran mid 14s stock.** > > > > **there have been 3400 and 3800s swapped into grand ams of all years but the problem is that most came with auto trannies. the z34 5 spd is a solution but its nearly impossible to make it work in an N-Car.** there will be a 3800 5 spd motor available soon:D 😃 i know the guy personally ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Sleeper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sleeper/32/5939_2.png) [@imported\_Sleeper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Sleeper)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/13 "2004-02-23T20:52:39Z")
he made a funny:D ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Sleeper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sleeper/32/5939_2.png) [@imported\_Sleeper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Sleeper)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/14 "2004-02-23T20:53:14Z")
> _Originally posted by slowcamaro_ > **there will be a 3800 5 spd motor available soon:D 😃** > > > > **i know the guy personally** > Do tell Do tell:grouphug: ---
**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/15 "2004-02-23T20:53:51Z")
> _Originally posted by BlkP42E_ > **thats what mine is, a 95. im on 98k and it still runs fine and strong. how bad did you whoop on yours?** go over to [www.gmpowertalk.com](http://www.gmpowertalk.com) or [ww.gmperformancetuning.com](http://ww.gmperformancetuning.com) and check out those guys. their 3x00 engines last forever and from what they say are good engines. ---
**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/16 "2004-02-23T20:54:39Z")
> _Originally posted by SleeperGTP_ > **Do tell Do tell:grouphug:** what tranny? in what car? and how! ---
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/17 "2004-02-23T20:55:27Z")
> _Originally posted by BlkP42E_ > **thats what mine is, a 95. im on 98k and it still runs fine and strong. how bad did you whoop on yours?** blew a rod to start at 10k…drove it normal…3 tranny’s i can go on and on ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/18 "2004-02-23T20:56:19Z")
mine runs fine, now that i got that tune up 😃 ---
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/19 "2004-02-23T20:56:42Z")
> _Originally posted by SleeperGTP_ > **Do tell Do tell:grouphug:** My motor… ls1 comming ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307/20 "2004-02-23T20:57:06Z")
> _Originally posted by slowcamaro_ > **blew a rod to start at 10k…drove it normal…3 tranny’s > i can go on and on** :lemonlaw::tounge: [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-for-ga/164307.md?page=2)