# Engine Swap w/out an engine lift.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive
**Created:** [November 18, 2004, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052 "2004-11-18T15:01:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Ed1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ed1)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2004, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/1 "2004-11-18T15:01:13Z")
is that possible to do with a 240?
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### Author:  [@Theo23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Theo23)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2004, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/2 "2004-11-18T16:14:03Z")
Sure, but you need either a really strong back or a very big tree with strong branches and a chainfall. If you have an old swing set they sometimes work too, but it has to be pretty darned strong too, I wouldn’t recommend it.
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### Author:  [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jedi_Car_Fan)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2004, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/3 "2004-11-18T16:45:45Z")
As Theo23 stated… A chainfall would work… I’ve used them before… not on a 240 thou but rwd trucks. But you do need something quite strong to attach too
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### Author:  [@GT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GT1)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2004, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/4 "2004-11-18T17:01:56Z")
go rent a lift.
and do it right
GT
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### Author:  [@iQuAGoD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iQuAGoD)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/5 "2004-11-18T17:24:42Z")
PM me if you need a hoist. We rent them out.
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### Author:  [@240newbie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240newbie)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2004, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/6 "2004-11-18T21:06:58Z")
Umm… me and 2 other friends lifted my motor off the back of a truck because we didnt have a engine hoist at the time and it had to be done that night… Trust me its not Something i recomend! engine hoist is the best way to go… if not theres a good chance u will bend or break something eather your back or ur car.
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### Author:  [@canadiandrifter240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/canadiandrifter240sx)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/7 "2004-11-18T21:14:23Z")
if you have alot of time you can drop the engine out the bottom of the car. But you have to romove half of the suspension and the crossmember with the engine ut it can be done. Some rest the engine and crossmember on a skateboard, then lift the car with really tall jacks and roll the engine out from under it. I would say if you can rent a hois do it cause it will save time.
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### Author:  [@recoil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/recoil)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2004, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/8 "2004-11-19T10:44:16Z")
just go to CT, buy one, use it, then return it.
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### Author:  [@AnDrEw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AnDrEw)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2004, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/9 "2004-11-19T10:50:02Z")
use a hoist and save yourself the trouble. Canadiandrifters way will work, but its alot of work. Rent Andrews hoist he’ll give you a good deal 🙂
Andrew.
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### Author:  [@canadiandrifter240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/canadiandrifter240sx)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2004, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/10 "2004-11-19T11:52:49Z")
I agree you should use a hoist it is much esier but I was just answering his question. I will rent you my hoist if you want but andrew is prob closer to you.
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### Author:  [@nocwage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nocwage)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2004, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/11 "2004-11-19T12:10:03Z")
It’s a small price to pay to ensure you don’t crush yourself.
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### Author:  [@Ed1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ed1)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/12 "2004-11-19T14:14:51Z")
ty, I’ll pm you guys when I need a hoist
can I put it in a minivan?
lol I live in scarborough
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### Author:  [@Pavel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pavel)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/13 "2004-11-19T15:10:41Z")
> [@Ed](#):
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> can I put it in a minivan?
Yes, you can, no problem, it actually fits into S13 hatch no problem.
iQuABoB lives in Richmond Hill
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### Author:  [@AnDrEw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AnDrEw)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2004, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/14 "2004-11-19T15:13:36Z")
[quote=“Pavel”]
> [@Ed](#):
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> can I put it in a minivan?
Yes, you can, no problem, it actually fits into S13 hatch no problem.
iQuABoB lives in Richmond Hill[/quote]
:lol: me, wayne and derek have first hand experience fitting it in a 240. Easy as pie lol.
Just don’t show up with an Integra and try to fit a KA in it 😉
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### Author:  [@DTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DTS)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2004, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/15 "2004-11-20T11:36:31Z")
me and 4 people lifted my KA and tranny and harness into the buyers van, it was do able but i strongly advise you dodnt try it
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### Author:  [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2004, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/16 "2004-11-20T18:18:44Z")
I’ve done it in 8 hours without a lift.
Jacked the car up nice and high.
Dropped the Front Subframe
Removed motor, Installed new motor, and Jacked in new Subframe.
Done and Done…
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### Author:  [@AnDrEw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AnDrEw)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2004, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/17 "2004-11-20T18:25:42Z")
> [@SHIFT\_SR20DET](#):
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> I’ve done it in 8 hours without a lift.
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> Jacked the car up nice and high.
>
> Dropped the Front Subframe
>
> Removed motor, Installed new motor, and Jacked in new Subframe.
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> Done and Done…
:lol: :bsflag:
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### Author:  [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/18 "2004-11-21T08:23:43Z")
> [@AnDrEw](#):
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> [quote=SHIFT\_SR20DET]I’ve done it in 8 hours without a lift.
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> Jacked the car up nice and high.
>
> Dropped the Front Subframe
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> Removed motor, Installed new motor, and Jacked in new Subframe.
>
> Done and Done…
:lol: :bsflag:[/quote]
uh… yah okay…
Why don’t you ask Sir. Driftalot or Ed…
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### Author:  [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/19 "2004-11-21T08:24:26Z")
Do I need to post pictures to Prove to you that it can be done and is just as quick and effictive as usinga hoist?
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### Author:  [@Ed1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ed1)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/engine-swap-w-out-an-engine-lift/82052/20 "2004-11-29T21:18:57Z")
how high does the jack need to lift?
does those jack cost $$$$$$$$$? a lift is around 300 bucks at cosco and CT I think
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