# enter engineers/craftsman/homeowners **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 19, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331 "2009-02-19T17:06:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/1 "2009-02-19T17:06:15Z")
since my dad is finally redoing the roof this coming spring/summer (1st time, house is only 18 years old), i had a little idea from something a read about a long time ago and wondered if anyone else tried this. for all i know maybe its already on lots of houses cutting out one section of the roof and placing a solar powered fan to keep the heat down in the winter and keep the ac down in the summer. idk how many fans i would need or the size of the fans. the power board for the solar energy ive never done either but im pretty handy so i think if i worked hard at it i could make it work i kinda think i should try it out on our shed first (my dads iffy about the house but doesnt care about the shed that much) worst comes to worst, the fan breaks and im back where i started from, i guess it would make sense to make a built in frame, and a bolted on unit (fan and power board) this doesnt include materials to protect the board or fan, moisture content possibly fucking up electrical stuff and what not i think for a couple of bucks (less than 100$ per unit) it would be a good investment that would pay itself off quickly. any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![87GN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87gn/32/5193_2.png) [@87GN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87GN)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/2 "2009-02-19T18:22:55Z")
HUH? Usually isn’t the floor/ceiling below the roof insulated, I don’t understand how that would help at all. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/3 "2009-02-19T18:25:24Z")
I think your efforts would be better spent installing a ridge vent since the house probably doesn’t have one if it’s 18 years old. Plus if he ever wants to sell the house customary upgrades add value but goofy ass shit subtracts value. > [@ubengineering"](#): > > the power board for the solar energy ive never done either but im pretty handy so i think if i worked hard at it i could make it work And this scares me. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/4 "2009-02-19T18:26:05Z")
> [@87GN](#): > > HUH? Usually isn’t the floor/ceiling below the roof insulated, I don’t understand how that would help at all. Ever noticed how a roof is ventilated? You want to keep it ventilated in the summer ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/5 "2009-02-19T18:27:37Z")
> [@87GN](#): > > HUH? Usually isn’t the floor/ceiling below the roof insulated, I don’t understand how that would help at all. Ever noticed how attics are ventilated? You want to keep them cool in the summer so that you don’t have a convection oven on top of the house, and cold in the winter so that house warmth doesn’t melt the snow, turning it into ice and damaging your shit. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/6 "2009-02-19T18:31:31Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > And this scares me. lol i guess i dont know the exact terms for things, but ya cant learn without trying edit: it wouldnt look goofy! ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/7 "2009-02-19T18:31:51Z")
Yep. Good luck either way. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/8 "2009-02-19T18:34:04Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Ever noticed how a roof is ventilated? You want to keep it ventilated in the summer > [@Fry](#): > > Ever noticed how attics are ventilated? You want to keep them cool in the summer so that you don’t have a convection oven on top of the house, and cold in the winter so that house warmth doesn’t melt the snow, turning it into ice and damaging your shit. yes! even tho ur a fool n posted it twice :roflpicard: 😛 you need to have the house be able to breathe. my 4th grade analogy: If your are wearing a helmet with a visor, and you’re breathing heavy, the air from your breath vs the temp of the visor will combine to fog up the visor because of the difference in temperatures. thus leading to a some kind of death/fail when you leave the visor slightly cracked this does not happen, (ventilation). or if u have one of them sick nasty helmets with side vents it works too lol ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/9 "2009-02-19T18:39:11Z")
“to keep the heat down in the winter and keep the ac down in the summer.” Umm, what? Rather than treat the symptom, treat the problem - insulate. Like Fry said though keep the attic cool in winter and summer. If bugs and critters weren’t an issue the ultimate attic would be wide ass open. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/10 "2009-02-19T18:41:24Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > “to keep the heat down in the winter and keep the ac down in the summer.” > > Umm, what? to keep the heat in the house during the winter (not letting it escape) and the same for the AC to keep the house cool, not triggering the thermostat as often so there isnt wasted energy =) ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/11 "2009-02-19T18:41:53Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > “to keep the heat down in the winter and keep the ac down in the summer.” > > Umm, what? i would assume, to save on energy bills. which would be the only point of putting one of these things on your house. idk, maybe im just drawing conclusions based off common sense edit: > [@ubengineering](#): > > to keep the heat in the house during the winter (not letting it escape) and the same for the AC to keep the house cool, not triggering the thermostat as often > > so there isnt wasted energy =) ok. so maybe my common sense just isnt enough sense ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/12 "2009-02-19T18:45:00Z")
> [@ubengineering](#): > > to keep the heat in the house during the winter (not letting it escape) and the same for the AC to keep the house cool, not triggering the thermostat as often > > so there isnt wasted energy =) I guess I don’t understand how a fan is going to keep heat in your house. Edit: you also want soffit vents so the air flows from soffit to ridge/peak as to not trap air. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/13 "2009-02-19T18:50:21Z")
well im still doing research and checking out diff options =) ill post up sum stuff soon ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/14 "2009-02-19T18:51:27Z")
[http://www.dulley.com/docs/f987.htm](http://www.dulley.com/docs/f987.htm) ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/15 "2009-02-19T18:53:26Z")
well i guess you can buy one! fuck my life FML! [http://www.toolbase.org/Technology-Inventory/HVAC/Solar-Powered-Attic-Fan](http://www.toolbase.org/Technology-Inventory/HVAC/Solar-Powered-Attic-Fan) edit: day late and a buck short =(, but itd still be fun to make one on my own ---
**Author:** ![99Ls1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99ls1/32/5344_2.png) [@99Ls1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99Ls1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/enter-engineers-craftsman-homeowners/63331/16 "2009-02-19T21:54:37Z")
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