# EPA OKs E15 Gasoline for 2001 and up Cars **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 22, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565 "2011-01-22T20:35:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![xreaction](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xreaction/32/6409_2.png) [@xreaction](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xreaction)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/1 "2011-01-22T20:35:00Z")
More corn [http://in.reuters.com/article/idINN2122344520110121](http://in.reuters.com/article/idINN2122344520110121) > The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has approved a boost in levels of corn-based ethanol in gasoline for vehicles built in the last decade, a move the automobile industry and food producers fear will raise costs. > > The agency on Friday approved gasoline containing up to 15 percent ethanol, known as E15, for use in vehicles built from 2001 to 2006, up from 10 percent now. > > The EPA already in October approved a similar increase in ethanol for cars and trucks built in 2007 and later. > > “Recently completed testing and data analysis show that E15 does not harm emissions control equipment in newer cars and light trucks,” said EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson. > > “Wherever sound science and the law support steps to allow more home-grown fuels in America’s vehicles, this administration takes those steps.” > > The EPA’s decision now allows E15 gasoline in more than half the cars and trucks on U.S. roads. > > However, service station owners are worried that putting higher ethanol blends in older cars could lead to lawsuits if the fuel damages their engines. > > The industry will also have to pay for for new blender pumps and storage tanks to sell E15, which could stall adoption of the fuel. > > Livestock feeders and food makers also fear that E15 gasoline will push up corn prices because of increased demand from ethanol makers for the grain. Most U.S ethanol is made from corn. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/2 "2011-01-22T20:51:07Z")
Sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/3 "2011-01-22T22:06:40Z")
oh ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/4 "2011-01-22T22:24:09Z")
IDK anything about fuel but FUCK THAT SHIT if it is going to fuck up my 1988 fuel system. ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/5 "2011-01-22T22:24:30Z")
hahaha ya thats what im thinking right now ! ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/6 "2011-01-22T22:25:43Z")
What about my 1986 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Oh noes What does it all mean tho? ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/7 "2011-01-23T06:01:58Z")
Instead of drilling in Texas and Alaska they want us to put an ear of corn in our gas tanks and still charge us for a gallon of real gas. Fucking stupid. ---
**Author:** ![xreaction](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xreaction/32/6409_2.png) [@xreaction](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xreaction)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/8 "2011-01-23T07:55:00Z")
I’m not totally sure if this hurts us or benefit us but what the EPA is trying to do is raise ethanol levels so it can somewhat compensate for higher fuel prices…they did that with E10 and nothing changed, gas prices kept climbing up ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/9 "2011-01-23T08:14:34Z")
This will actually hurt your wallet even more if you think about it. Ethanol doesn’t burn as well as gasoline so by increasing it’s concentration by volume you will have to burn more fuel to get the same energy. So unless they drop the price at the same time it’s actually going to be more money out of your pocket every month. Also ethanol attracts moisture and will damage fuel systems in older vehicles when the concentration increases. The newer cars use a different kind of rubber/plastic lines the older stuff will brake down over time. Either way if they only approve it for 01 and up vehicle gas stations still have to sell the regular E10. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/10 "2011-01-23T08:35:45Z")
Sooo let me get this straight. CAFE standards are requiring ALL new vehicles to get better and better MPG, but they’re also making it so the fuel we use forces the cars to get lower MPGs. I love this country. ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/11 "2011-01-23T09:17:04Z")
It sucks even worst for bikes, especially the carb’d ones. Looks like stuff like Startron is going to be more of a requirement if all the pumps switched to E15… ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/12 "2011-01-23T09:49:25Z")
> [@Buffalo Bills 2007 Season Discussion](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-bills-2007-season-discussion/35063/648): > > Sooo let me get this straight. CAFE standards are requiring ALL new vehicles to get better and better MPG, but they’re also making it so the fuel we use forces the cars to get lower MPGs. > > I love this country. So true. I remember when they went to E10 my car at the time lost 2 mpg. I really dont understand the point of the CAFE bullshit because if the government is making a killing on gas taxes wouldnt they want us to drive something that gets about 3 mpg like a V10 1 ton truck? In Pittsfield, MA gas is 20 cents less than the last station in NY. ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/13 "2011-01-23T14:35:45Z")
> [@FS: FALL OUT BOY TICKETS 11/19/07](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-fall-out-boy-tickets-11-19-07/38508/41): > > So true. I remember when they went to E10 my car at the time lost 2 mpg. > > I really dont understand the point of the CAFE bullshit because if the government is making a killing on gas taxes wouldnt they want us to drive something that gets about 3 mpg like a V10 1 ton truck? > > In Pittsfield, MA gas is 20 cents less than the last station in NY. CAFE is susppose to help reduce green house gas emission and reduce damage to the environment. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/14 "2011-01-23T14:45:57Z")
> [@perplexing thought of the day](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/perplexing-thought-of-the-day/39034/14): > > CAFE is susppose to help reduce green house gas emission and reduce damage to the environment. Which is why they’re in charge of gas mileage restrictions and such like that? When people think CAFE standards, they think gas mileage, not emissions. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/15 "2011-01-23T14:46:51Z")
Fuck that save a tree peace and love hippie bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/16 "2011-01-23T17:37:40Z")
PJB clearly does not give a shit about _anything_. ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/17 "2011-01-23T19:17:29Z")
Has nothing to do with the EPA. Has to do with the farming and corn lobby and our shitty politicians. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/18 "2011-01-23T20:07:14Z")
Ethanol is a cleaner/more environmentally friendly replacement for MTBE… there was always bullshit in our gas to reach advertised octane levels. ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/19 "2011-01-23T20:22:30Z")
> [@ETRADE HELP PLEASE!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/etrade-help-please/39032/2): > > This will actually hurt your wallet even more if you think about it. Ethanol doesn’t burn as well as gasoline so by increasing it’s concentration by volume you will have to burn more fuel to get the same energy. So unless they drop the price at the same time it’s actually going to be more money out of your pocket every month. Also ethanol attracts moisture and will damage fuel systems in older vehicles when the concentration increases. The newer cars use a different kind of rubber/plastic lines the older stuff will brake down over time. Either way if they only approve it for 01 and up vehicle gas stations still have to sell the regular E10. THIS. E85 burns 25-30% less efficient than pump gas w/o ethanol. FUCKING DUMB! ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-oks-e15-gasoline-for-2001-and-up-cars/256565/20 "2011-01-24T05:26:45Z")
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