# EPA to Automakers: Horsepower War is Over. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 31, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-to-automakers-horsepower-war-is-over/42753 "2008-01-31T20:40:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 64
**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-to-automakers-horsepower-war-is-over/42753/64 "2008-02-01T08:02:19Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > It’s just more proof that the government can’t run anything efficiently in their desire to push car makers from V6’s to turbo 4’s in mid sized cars. Sure, the turbo 4 looks great on the EPA loop, but when you drive it hard enough to get similar performance to your old V6 in normal traffic the MPG are actually worse on the turbo. Just look at real world numbers for a little Jetta 1.8T vs the VR6. Two of my friends owned a 1.8T and it was great on gas as long as your drove it like an egg was under the gas pedal. As soon as you started getting into boost much the MPG dropped off badly. I get 18ish city driving in my vr6 lol. If I grandma drive it I can pull 23, but that doesn’t happen often. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epa-to-automakers-horsepower-war-is-over/42753)._