# Epic Apocalyptic Winter Stormgasm 2015/2016

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 17, 2015, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410 "2015-12-17T10:59:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/121 "2016-01-13T10:03:56Z")

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The world famous Ice Car has been removed.

[http://weather.buffalonews.com/2016/01/13/ice-car-moving-from-hoaks-to-hamburg-collision-shop/](http://weather.buffalonews.com/2016/01/13/ice-car-moving-from-hoaks-to-hamburg-collision-shop/)

A towing company, hired by the kid’s insurance company, used some calcium flakes to melt around the tires then winched it onto a flatbad so they could bring it somewhere warm to thaw. Can’t tell for sure from the couple pictures but it like it was removed without much damage other than losing a bit of it’s license plate. The ice shell left behind is really cool.

![http://weather.buffalonews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2016/01/hickeyhoaks.jpg](http://weather.buffalonews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2016/01/hickeyhoaks.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/122 "2016-01-13T11:15:57Z")

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lol even the shell of ice car is becoming an attraction. I hope Hoak’s is making some $$ from this.

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/123 "2016-01-13T11:49:02Z")

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> [@LUC1F3R](#):
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> I got a whole inch in Williamsville…on a brighter note I drove to Lancaster last night and found some unplowed roads to make rooster tails with. Supercharger whine is much easier to hear when the snow muffles the exhaust:)

How is that thing in the snow?

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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/124 "2016-01-13T16:55:39Z")

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> [@Minglor](#):
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> How is that thing in the snow?

Mine blows, then again the last 4 winters I have been in AWD. I can only imagine how the supercharger set up is in the snow.

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**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/125 "2016-01-13T17:46:23Z")

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> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#):
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> Mine blows, then again the last 4 winters I have been in AWD. I can only imagine how the supercharger set up is in the snow.

Even w the supercharger and cam it still drives like stock when I’m not hard on it. Put some good snows on and youll be driving circles around everyone on all seasons. It also helps to start off in second gear…but for me that even helps with traction on non snow covered roads…

> [@Minglor](#):
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> How is that thing in the snow?

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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/126 "2016-01-13T18:01:15Z")

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I have snows, but they seem to be a hard compound. I’m going to order some blizzaks soon. Do you have any weight in the trunk?

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**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/127 "2016-01-14T05:12:42Z")

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no weight in the trunk. I use 235/55r17 firestone winterforce. The ratings arent as good as blizzaks but theyre half the price. This is my third winter on them and def the last.

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/128 "2016-01-14T05:16:53Z")

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Put a couple 60lb sandbags in the trunk that will help a lot.

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**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/129 "2016-01-14T05:35:39Z")

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[quote=“jay\_g,post:128,topic:273410"”]

Put a couple 60lb sandbags in the trunk that will help a lot.

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I really don’t have any issues with traction unless i induce them myself, IMO id rather keep it lighter and easier to stop. Limited slip and a nearly 50/50 weight distribution in a 4100 lb car makes for more than enough traction.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/130 "2016-01-14T06:19:53Z")

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> [@LUC1F3R](#):
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> I really don’t have any issues with traction unless i induce them myself, IMO id rather keep it lighter and easier to stop. Limited slip and a nearly 50/50 weight distribution in a 4100 lb car makes for more than enough traction.

^ This. With good snows I never needed weight in the back of my GTO either.

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/131 "2016-01-14T06:46:30Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> ^ This. With good snows I never needed weight in the back of my GTO either.

Yep. I swap snow tires and rims on the 1 series and with 300hp rwd I never have an issue. Actually one of the better cars I have driven in the winter except for the low clearance.

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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/132 "2016-01-14T06:51:35Z")

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> [@boxxa](#):
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> Yep. I swap snow tires and rims on the 1 series and with 300hp rwd I never have an issue. Actually one of the better cars I have driven in the winter except for the low clearance.

I was pleasantly surprised with the handling of @**[Geoff](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=30195)**'s 135i in the snow, back when he had it.

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/133 "2016-01-14T07:19:06Z")

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damnit now i’m looking at 135s

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/134 "2016-01-14T07:20:44Z")

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> [@Norb O](#):
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> damnit now i’m looking at 135s

smh

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/135 "2016-01-14T07:29:49Z")

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I am running on blizzaks with the Si…prob. the last year for them, maybe one more…

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**Author:** ![EvoMR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evomr/32/7186_2.png) [@EvoMR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EvoMR)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/136 "2016-01-14T08:00:59Z")

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GTR is fun with snows.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/137 "2016-01-14T08:02:35Z")

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BMW’s traction and stability control systems are so good that one could run used up all seasons and be blatantly oblivious to road conditions and still come out a hero.

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/138 "2016-01-14T09:03:29Z")

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> [@fairgentleman Z](#):
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> BMW’s traction and stability control systems are so good that one could run used up all seasons and be blatantly oblivious to road conditions and still come out a hero.

Most people do. I have the M package with the low profile tires so they suck on any sort of snow/ice which is why I have to swap. Some people with the normal 335 wheels and tires seem to have no issues either. Their traction is pretty amazing.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/139 "2016-01-14T09:23:25Z")

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No, the traction is terrible, the programming of the independent braking to control yaw and keep the car in the right direction with crap tires is what is amazing.

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**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/epic-apocalyptic-winter-stormgasm-2015-2016/273410/140 "2016-01-14T10:29:53Z")

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My '90 Coupe with the tall skinny studded Nokians is downright ridiculous. It’s to the point where I really have to stand on it to get it out of sorts. I’ve never driven a better snow car in my life.

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