# ErnGotti's 08 EvoX
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807
**Category:** Builds
**Created:** [November 30, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807 "2010-11-30T14:18:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2241 "2011-09-23T16:23:57Z")
Well I will locate some other accounts too then (with your help). If you’re saying this then it must be true cuz I know you do insane reading up on these things. I will bring that information to the table when pleading my case.
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### Author:  [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2242 "2011-09-23T17:01:15Z")
> [@OM NOM NOM NOM](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/om-nom-nom-nom/45618/16):
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> Well I will locate some other accounts too then (with your help). If you’re saying this then it must be true cuz I know you do insane reading up on these things. I will bring that information to the table when pleading my case.
Here are some links to people that have had the diff. pin issue. Unfortunately it looks like most, if not all, have not received any type of warranty coverage. There’s always hope but even on a stock car they can claim abuse and thus void your warranty at will. That’s why a warranty on an Evo is a running joke on the forums. Plus the dealer can log into your ECU using the MUTTIII and get logs of your RPM spikes or launches.
[:conehttp://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46307&highlight=diff+pins](http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46307&highlight=diff+pins)
> **[Diff pins failing symptoms - EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and Lancer...](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-x-engine-turbo-drivetrain/548351-diff-pins-failing-symptoms.html)**
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> Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain - Diff pins failing symptoms - I just want to put together a thread that lists all the symptoms of your diff pins failing. This way people can possibly diagnose the problem before it becomes a huge problem, like me....
> **[Center Diff Pins - EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and Lancer Evolution Community](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-x-engine-turbo-drivetrain/486197-center-diff-pins.html)**
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> Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain - Center Diff Pins - I have been roaming the different forums, and keep reading horror stories about the center diff pins shearing and backing out. I would like to see who has had this problem, and the info about...
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### Author:  [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2243 "2011-09-23T17:52:32Z")
My ECU is locked out, remember?
They have to prove any warranty claim denial when asked. If they claim abuse, they need proof of abuse. They need to “provide proof beyond question” and they dont have any.
I understand what they are doing. They are like any insurance company. They are trying to protect their own interests but they need to pay up when its their responsibility.
Even so, I have a lifetime warranty through Goldstein Mitsu (pending they do all my maintenance, and they have) The only reason I towed to Mangino was because it was physically closest and thats what the Diamond Assurance Program does, they AAA you to nearest dealer. I got a free tow.
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### Author:  [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2244 "2011-09-23T18:37:36Z")
Yes I forgot about your locked ECU. I hope it all works out for you and they honor your warranty. Drivetrain issues are tough though but I wish you luck.
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### Author:  [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2245 "2011-09-24T05:02:45Z")
I wanna know how they are gonna prove abuse
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2246 "2011-09-24T06:01:24Z")
The chips on the doors/quarter panels? The public videos of you abusing the car? lol
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### Author:  [@Icon2008](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Icon2008)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2247 "2011-09-24T07:03:39Z")
> [@FS/TW: 1995 Prelude Vtec, JDM h22a, tons of jdm parts/new paint!! 6500$](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-tw-1995-prelude-vtec-jdm-h22a-tons-of-jdm-parts-new-paint-6500/43745/23):
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> The chips on the doors/quarter panels? The public videos of you abusing the car? lol
bingo there ya go ben
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### Author:  [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2248 "2011-09-24T07:14:00Z")
Come to find out the diff pin is built poorly and there is inadequate oiling to the diff at higher speeds. Mitsu put stronger diff pins in the 2011 BUT that doesn’t fix the problem, it only delays it. Also, instead of increasing the oil flow rate, they treated the components to withstand higher heat levels. Although that in theory is not a bad idea, the lack of oil allows the pin to wobble in place thus backing out. Since I do a ton of highway driving this makes even more sense. I printed out a number of informative things and even found that Jack’s Transmission can rebuild the diff, drill shit, weld shit, upgrade shit and they throw a lifetime warranty onto the diff. :-0
Thus, as I previously stated, this is a manufacturing defect. One that Mitsubishi is currently aware of too :shifty
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### Author:  [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2249 "2011-09-24T07:18:25Z")
 
 
 
 
 
 
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### Author:  [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2250 "2011-09-24T07:20:14Z")
OH SHIT FORGOT THIS ONE TOO
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### Author:  [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2251 "2011-09-24T07:20:43Z")
Looks like neglect/abuse to me
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### Author:  [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2252 "2011-09-24T07:21:34Z")
They voided the warranty on my truck because of a boost gauge and exhaust. You’ll get voided.
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### Author:  [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2253 "2011-09-24T07:23:29Z")
Most factory warranties state that ALL work must be done buy a certified mitsubishi technician. You can’t even technically take a wheel off the car to replace a flat tire and they can void your warranty
It appears as if someone has mysteriously removed those gif files that I posted from the original hosting site
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### Author:  [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2254 "2011-09-24T07:47:10Z")
> [@SRS BZNS"](#):
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> Most factory warranties state that ALL work must be done buy a certified mitsubishi technician. You can’t even technically take a wheel off the car to replace a flat tire and they can void your warranty
It all HAS been done by mitsu. Oil changes and clutch (only services it needed)
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### Author:  [@Icon2008](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Icon2008)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2255 "2011-09-24T08:16:54Z")
i dunno but that exhaust being put on in those pictures doesnt look like a dealers garage to me
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### Author:  [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2256 "2011-09-24T08:19:01Z")
> [@WTB or WTBorrow: Wideband](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-or-wtborrow-wideband/45591/5):
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> i dunno but that exhaust being put on in those pictures doesnt look like a dealers garage to me
How do you know what the dealers garage looks like? And exhaust install isn’t “regular maintenance” which is what mitsu’s warranty states. So yet again, in a failed attempt to talk me down, you’re really just talking out your ass.
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### Author:  [@Icon2008](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Icon2008)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2257 "2011-09-24T08:25:42Z")
looks like a bus garage or something to me hmmmm
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### Author:  [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2258 "2011-09-24T08:45:51Z")
It depends on the dealership too. I get my service done at Mangino and they’re fine with basic bolt-ons (exhaust, i/c piping, etc.) but if you let’s say put in an aftermarket clutch and you start having drivetrain issues then yeah most likely you’ll get voided. Other dealerships will try and void you for just about any modification you can think of. A lot of times it comes down to your relationship with the service staff.
In your case Ern it’s a known issue with Mitsu but as I stated previously it’s a tricky situation since you’re modded and it’s a drivertrain thing. If they try to void you saying your mods caused the issue then the burden of proof is on them to prove your mods caused the issue as stated in the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss\_Warranty\_Act](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act)
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### Author:  [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2259 "2011-09-24T08:59:51Z")
> [@FS: oldmobile v8 + trans 200$](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-oldmobile-v8-trans-200/45597/2):
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> looks like a bus garage or something to me hmmmm
Sorry a bus garage doesn’t look that dumpy.
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### Author:  [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/2260 "2011-09-24T09:03:19Z")
IT would however have a yellow bus on a lift behind the car…
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