# ErnGotti's 08 EvoX **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [November 30, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807 "2010-11-30T14:18:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1121 "2011-04-30T11:20:39Z")
> [@bennyfizzle"](#): > > Ok dude. I’m going to not make fun of you for one whole post, I’m just going to ask you one thing: > > WTF is the purpose of this car?! Sit down and think about it. Drag racing? Roll racing? Do you want to do auto-x? Do you want to take it to a race track? Make up your mind. > > **If it’s just going to be a fun street car, give it a bit more power, put it on lowering springs, get a nice set of wheels, and drive within your limits.** If that car is getting away from you/losing traction on the street at all, then you are outside of your limits and need to chill the fuck out. Bingo. Look at my build thread on my 92x. I want a fun DD, so everything I purchase will work with this in mind. I don’t need the best parts and I don’t always buy new, but I make sure they are decent products to begin with. Suspension: STi struts, H&R springs - at this point in time, after selling my oem setup and the extras, I paid about $200 for the setup. I will be putting in Sedan LCA, axles, and sway bar to give it a wider track and have more negative camber. Wheels: Used 17 x 8 + 45 Enkei RPF1 with 245/40/17 Hankook Ventus RS2 Power - Invidia Catless Downpipe, 3" - 2.5" Midpipe, Prodrive muffler, Grimmspeed ECBS and a tune. This is good for 13s as-is. In the future I’ll be adding an STi turbo and intercooler and a tune. My car is a decent all-around daily driver and that’s what I wanted. If I wanted to go all out, there would be other things swapped out instead. ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1122 "2011-04-30T11:21:58Z")
I want your car, but with a sti 6 speed and brembos ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1123 "2011-04-30T11:23:41Z")
> [@The last movie you've seen, and rate it.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-last-movie-youve-seen-and-rate-it/27425/506): > > I want your car, but with a sti 6 speed and brembos who doesnt. :lol in the future, I may pick up the 4-pots (black no red) instead and some decent pads, but those brembos are too blingy/expensive for me. 😢 ---
**Author:** ![ErnGotti](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/erngotti/32/6372_2.png) [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1124 "2011-04-30T11:44:03Z")
> [@Cliff"](#): > > Yup. Better tires, aftermarket brake pads. All set. > [@sprint/verizon broadband + sirius online?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sprint-verizon-broadband-sirius-online/41726/6): > > Exactly. The car does 1g stock on the skidpad. Better tires are all it needs in the handling department. > [@JClark"](#): > > No you didnt fool. It’s “simple enough” because its wrong. It will not yield the result you want. No one is suggesting you buy ANYthing at all, just properly utilize what you already have. Oh yeah…? Benny, I’m already aware of what needs to be done…hence why I said imma track it allll yearrrrrr as is. I’m still trying to save up for a COBB AP but otherwise the car wont really be touched. PF01s are pretty hot. I’ve looked at them already. I dont like the six spoke look. never did, really. And I just installed the downpipe wednesday…sounds viscious 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1125 "2011-04-30T11:45:44Z")
Which DP did you end up going with? ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1126 "2011-04-30T11:46:10Z")
who tuned the car? ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1127 "2011-04-30T11:52:21Z")
> [@Fry != Addition? Fry = Replacement?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fry-addition-fry-replacement/41766/176): > > Oh yeah…? > > Benny, I’m already aware of what needs to be done…hence why I said imma track it allll yearrrrrr as is. **I’m still trying to save up for a COBB AP** but otherwise the car wont really be touched. > > PF01s are pretty hot. I’ve looked at them already. I dont like the six spoke look. never did, really. > > And I just installed the downpipe wednesday…sounds viscious 🙂 save for a real tune, it will be cheaper, more reliable, and you will gain more power you are stupid for throwing a full turboback exhaust and intake on your car untuned. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![ErnGotti](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/erngotti/32/6372_2.png) [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1128 "2011-04-30T14:28:46Z")
> [@2008 Detroit Auto Show](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2008-detroit-auto-show/39394/13): > > Which DP did you end up going with? CNT. Its based off the ETS system. Fit perfect. Sounds wonderful too. Came with all necessary parts and gaskets. Catback went on first, about an hour and a half with me and another guy doing it. The downpipe took only an hour. No CEL yet either 😃 A lift is a must though if you dont wanna fight and fight. > [@The last movie you've seen, and rate it.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-last-movie-youve-seen-and-rate-it/27425/507): > > save for a real tune, it will be cheaper, more reliable, and you will gain more power > > you are stupid for throwing a full turboback exhaust and intake on your car untuned. Good luck What makes you say that? The car runs quite rich from the factory. By allowing more airflow with intake and turboback it makes the car have more power, but SAFELY. Did lots of reading. A tune is the best thing for the car, though, BECAUSE it runs so rich, but I’m far from grenade status. The AccessPort is something plenty of EVO X guys do. It happens to be a “real tune” because the use can install preset settings OR map their own settings. If I happen to go with cams or a bigger turbo/injectors blah blah blah then I’d get a dyno tune for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1129 "2011-04-30T14:36:01Z")
AP is junk. Why buy an aftermarket piggyback EMS when you can open source tune it for free? ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1130 "2011-04-30T15:13:17Z")
> [@Purely for Curiosity](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/purely-for-curiosity/41788/52): > > CNT. Its based off the ETS system. Fit perfect. Sounds wonderful too. Came with all necessary parts and gaskets. Catback went on first, about an hour and a half with me and another guy doing it. The downpipe took only an hour. No CEL yet either 😃 A lift is a must though if you dont wanna fight and fight. > > What makes you say that? The car runs quite rich from the factory. By allowing more airflow with intake and turboback it makes the car have more power, but SAFELY. Did lots of reading. A tune is the best thing for the car, though, BECAUSE it runs so rich, but I’m far from grenade status. The AccessPort is something plenty of EVO X guys do. It happens to be a “real tune” because the use can install preset settings OR map their own settings. > > If I happen to go with cams or a bigger turbo/injectors blah blah blah then I’d get a dyno tune for sure. Awesome Ern. You have all the basic bolt-ons you need now. I have to agree with cazwrx187 though. Save up for a custom tune and really unleash the power of the car and all those mods. It’s by far the best mod you can do. ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1131 "2011-04-30T15:25:28Z")
> [@Purely for Curiosity](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/purely-for-curiosity/41788/52): > > CNT. Its based off the ETS system. Fit perfect. Sounds wonderful too. Came with all necessary parts and gaskets. Catback went on first, about an hour and a half with me and another guy doing it. The downpipe took only an hour. No CEL yet either 😃 A lift is a must though if you dont wanna fight and fight. > > What makes you say that? The car runs quite rich from the factory. By allowing more airflow with intake and turboback it makes the car have more power, but SAFELY. Did lots of reading. A tune is the best thing for the car, though, BECAUSE it runs so rich, but I’m far from grenade status. The AccessPort is something plenty of EVO X guys do. It happens to be a “real tune” because the use can install preset settings OR map their own settings. > > If I happen to go with cams or a bigger turbo/injectors blah blah blah then I’d get a dyno tune for sure. So the car runs rich everywhere over the power band, at every single load level, at any rpm? You did all the math to calculate how much more air is being let it everywhere over the power band, at every single load level, at any rpm?? You calculated how all that air would react with the “rich” stock tune everywhere over the entire power band, at every single load level, at any rpm?? You calculated how the decreased back pressure would affect the above? You calculated how the millions of things I left out come into play? Did you do any logging whatsoever? You can tune the with your mind bro? I didn’t think so. A cat back is one thing, but an intake and downpipe as well is a ticking time bomb. Get a tune ASAP or take all the parts off until you can afford a tune. 500 dollar tune or 9000 dollar engine. Your choice. ---
**Author:** ![skateshelter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skateshelter/32/6337_2.png) [@skateshelter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skateshelter)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1132 "2011-04-30T19:08:20Z")
Cobb is junk do not buy. ---
**Author:** ![ErnGotti](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/erngotti/32/6372_2.png) [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1133 "2011-05-01T11:25:39Z")
> [@Purely for Curiosity](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/purely-for-curiosity/41788/53): > > AP is junk. Why buy an aftermarket piggyback EMS when you can open source tune it for free? How can it get tuned for free? ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1134 "2011-05-01T14:02:28Z")
> [@Opie and Anthony](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opie-and-anthony/25815/224): > > How can it get tuned for free? It won’t be free for the tune itself but the “EMS” is free. It’s just reflashing your stock ECU, which is more than enough for you. I know you’ll go waste the money on AP anyways, but plenty of big power cars have been open source tuned reliably. ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1135 "2011-05-01T14:06:21Z")
AP is $700 for the X, you can get an Ivey Tune or similar for $400-$500. Save some dough and get a custom tune, you’ll yield more gains. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1136 "2011-05-01T18:46:54Z")
> [@Purely for Curiosity](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/purely-for-curiosity/41788/70): > > It won’t be free for the tune itself but the “EMS” is free. It’s just reflecting your stock ECU, which is more than enough for you. I know you’ll go waste the money on AP anyways, but plenty of big power cars have been open source tuned reliably. turbo travis’ Evo is tuned open source makes ALOT of power. ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1137 "2011-05-01T18:47:46Z")
> [@Front Lower Ball Joint Replacement - 96 Subaru Legacy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-lower-ball-joint-replacement-96-subaru-legacy/41818/7): > > turbo travis’ Evo is tuned open source makes **ALOT** of power. understatement :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1138 "2011-05-01T18:48:23Z")
> [@Does anyone make their own protein bars?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-make-their-own-protein-bars/41796/19): > > understatement :rofl ok, it makes a whole bunch of power. about 250 shy of 1000. ---
**Author:** ![ErnGotti](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/erngotti/32/6372_2.png) [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1139 "2011-05-02T08:05:00Z")
> [@Opie and Anthony](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opie-and-anthony/25815/228): > > AP is $700 for the X, you can get an Ivey Tune or similar for $400-$500. Save some dough and get a custom tune, you’ll yield more gains. Where you been hunting? Brand new AP’s cost $495 and used close to $300. ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1140 "2011-05-02T09:01:11Z")
> [@ErnGotti"](#): > > Where you been hunting? Brand new AP’s cost $495 and used close to $300. Really? The cheapest I’ve seen is $595. Regardless I’m not hunting for an AP I’m going with a pro tune since it yields more in terms of gains. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807.md?page=56) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807.md?page=58)