# ErnGotti's 08 EvoX
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807
**Category:** Builds
**Created:** [November 30, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807 "2010-11-30T14:18:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 96
### Author:  [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1901 "2011-07-06T18:23:38Z")
How do you know so much about his car? You guys boyfriends? Fot critisizing everyone else who makes suggestions about what could be wrong or what to do you seem to do the same thing minus the ball busting.
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### Author:  [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1902 "2011-07-06T18:27:39Z")
> [@ErnGotti"](#):
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> Thats a better way to put it, so thank you sir.
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> I bought the car with 9,456 miles. Right now it has 25,236 miles. So 15k give or take. I did just find out that one month after purchasing the car, Solom (the original owner) blew the transmission (not sure if it was his fault or not). He bought it in september and in october a Mitsu dealer in Jersey rebuilt 2nd gear and replaced a number of other things. Not sure if the clutch is included with that or not. I need to call that dealer to find out.
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> I really dont know if its leaking. I have a gravel driveway and the parking lot at work is gravel. I’ll throw a cardboard sheet under the car.
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> I also disconnected the battery in hopes of resetting the computer. Because, ultimately, this “hesitation” ONLY started after the vacuum leak happened.
if it was a warr job , guaranteed it wasnt replaced seein as the clutch is a wear item that isnt warranteed unless it was destroyed
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### Author:  [@duesmandella](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duesmandella)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1903 "2011-07-06T18:36:26Z")
Ernald your clutch is not slipping. If it was slipping I/Shane would have told you immediately after we drove your car at edinburgh
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### Author:  [@Brandon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Brandon)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1904 "2011-07-07T07:00:44Z")
you have put 16k miles on that thing already, dam dude.
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1905 "2011-07-07T08:53:52Z")
> [@tax returns come I'm gettin turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tax-returns-come-im-gettin-turbo/43690/4):
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> Ernie… **all these guys that have no idea what you even mean when you say it’s “sliping”** …all know for sure that your clutch is toast. So go change your clutch tonight before the next 65 pages are about a slipping clutch that’s not slipping.
Yeah you are right, because the kid cant even use the right terminology so its hard to follow! lol An engine’s output doesnt “slip” it hesitates. Friction surfaces “slip”, clutches, limited SLIP differentials, tires, windshield wipers, your ass in a seat.
First thing he said was, “Derp, I hit teh gasses and da evoh feels like itz slipping”.
WTF, that is a bunch of useless information. What we did, as idiot techs, was made suggestions as to what the hell could be going on to make him feel a “slip”. Its like when idiot users try to tell me they cant print, I have to ask the dumb simple questions first… IS IT EVEN ON?
Since a 90% of this car, and apparently cars in general he has a lot to learn about still, with all the harassment or what ever you call it, I can actually see him learning from all of this. Since now he thinks its a hesitation in engine output, not frictional losses contributing to erratic propulsion.
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### Author:  [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1906 "2011-07-07T09:17:27Z")
The X’s, in particular the 2008’s, all hesitate due to their pig-rich factory tune. Mine bucks like a bronco at low RPM’s but it’s hit and miss as far as when it happens. Your hesitation might be a bit more pronounced now due to your added mods. From all the reading I’ve done a tune will take care of this.
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1907 "2011-07-07T09:25:03Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/43702/2):
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> The X’s, in particular the 2008’s, all hesitate due to their pig-rich factory tune. Mine bucks like a bronco at low RPM’s but it’s hit and miss as far as when it happens. Your hesitation might be a bit more pronounced now due to your added mods. From all the reading I’ve done a tune will take care of this.
has anyone with a good wideband logged any of this? what kind of ration are we talking here? Rolling coal shit or what?
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### Author:  [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1908 "2011-07-07T09:27:44Z")
> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> has anyone with a good wideband logged any of this? what kind of ration are we talking here? Rolling coal shit or what?
redline dont tune for mitsu
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### Author:  [@HANSTECH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HANSTECH)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1909 "2011-07-07T10:04:25Z")
sell the car.
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### Author:  [@RTrac1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RTrac1)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1910 "2011-07-07T10:35:57Z")
his car is definitely running rich. I could smell it when I was behind him in traffic the other day.
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1911 "2011-07-07T11:04:51Z")
> [@FS:2000 Gmc Sierra Z71 4x4 NEW PRICE $6500](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2000-gmc-sierra-z71-4x4-new-price-6500/40592/40):
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> his car is definitely running rich. I could smell it when I was behind him in traffic the other day.
like 11.0 rich, or like 9.0 rich? Becasue one would be shooting out a little black smoke, and smell like fuel with catless exhaust. the other is washing cylinder walls, can causing severe damage.
I still cant see how Mitsu, puts a factory car out, that has to pass emissions, and get decent EPA rated mileage… yet its pig shit rich? EVEN after effectively LEANING out the car, but de-restricting the exhaust, de-restricting the intake… ie huffing in more air.
its completely backwards in my book. fuck if thats the case and this car gets 20mpg now, leaned out and tuned it better get 30mpg!
Also are we talking rich, under boost, or under vac and light loads? two major differences.
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### Author:  [@RTrac1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RTrac1)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1912 "2011-07-07T11:11:00Z")
I could smell it, but didnt see any black smoke.
He seemed to be taking it easy on the car. no boosting around like a toolbag or anything
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1913 "2011-07-07T11:19:23Z")
> [@The last movie you've seen, and rate it.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-last-movie-youve-seen-and-rate-it/27425/555):
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> I could smell it, but didnt see any black smoke.
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> He seemed to be taking it easy on the car. no boosting around like a toolbag or anything
If its not pissing out black smoke, either its not really that rich or the cats are soaking up all the unburnt fuel very well. If its a catless exhaust, the smell will be there for just about any car reguardless of how its tuned… but the likelyhood of black smoke (unburnt fuel) would be higher.
also not seeming like its boosting and not boosting are not the same, need logs or real data. Like I have been saying for so long now. ANYONE making modifications to their motors, should be pulling logs and watching shit like a hawk. All he has is a worthless narrow band gauge, and a boost gauge. Doubt he ever saw a single log on a laptop pulled from this car yet.
Its funny how this entire fucking thread looks like a big game of wheres waldo!
Errrrnie. get a fucking wideband, and a laptop. Watch your boost gauge, and then the fancy graph and shit from the wide band’s software. or better yet get the odb2 cable and software for the mitsu ecu, and se exactly whats going on. Its a factory wideband ecu, and its got a map sensor… there is boost and afr side by side in a graph.
/\ real answers
65 pages of everything else here has been spent playing wheres waldo
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### Author:  [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1914 "2011-07-07T11:24:00Z")
Mine belches black smoke when I get on it, it even did it when I had the stock cat on it.
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1915 "2011-07-07T11:29:58Z")
> [@WTB:Daily driver for under 5k](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-daily-driver-for-under-5k/43581/17):
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> Mine belches black smoke when I get on it, it even did it when I had the stock cat on it.
and whats your afr?
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### Author:  [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1916 "2011-07-07T11:38:01Z")
> [@Don's (Carnut's) New Shop V. My Review](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dons-carnuts-new-shop-v-my-review/43715/8):
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> and whats your afr?
I don’t have my wideband installed yet. People running similar mods as Ern are posting anywhere between 12.5-14.5.
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1917 "2011-07-07T11:46:48Z")
Which is not on the rich side of things at all for a turbo motor.
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### Author:  [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1918 "2011-07-07T11:53:35Z")
damn hittin 14.5 like a boss will get you nowhere fast :lol
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1919 "2011-07-07T11:57:59Z")
> [@HudsonFalcon"](#):
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> I don’t have my wideband installed yet. People running similar mods as Ern are posting anywhere between 12.5-14.5.
I love you guys dont take this the wrong way… but thats exactly what i have been talking about. without knowing the data you are Raycharles in Pamplona running with the bulls!
Get it installed asap, hell PM me, ill tig the bung in and run the wires for you in an hr on my lift.
> [@the most impossible platform game ever?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-most-impossible-platform-game-ever/43698/16):
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> Which is not on the rich side of things at all for a turbo motor.
Exactly. Right in the ball park, somewhat on the lean side actually (under boost)! Also without pulling timing data, who knows how aggressive its tuned… and thats just the basics to worry about.
I will tell ya what, Errrni and Hudson, if you dont have the time or the gauge (ernie) to pull the data, I do and would help you do it for beer money. I have a Innovate wideband 02 and controller (thankfully the retards only stole the gauge from my jetta and didnt take the controller hooked to it! lol). I can put your car on the lift, unbolt the secondary 02 (i know its post cat and not the best place to log from) and screw in my 02 sensor, run the wire threw the window and put the controller into the cig lighter… 15 mins we are logging REAL data. FUCK ill even print you a color graph to take home! lol
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/erngottis-08-evox/255807/1920 "2011-07-07T11:58:35Z")
> [@What in the tarnation?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-in-the-tarnation/43718/2):
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> damn hittin 14.5 like a boss will get you nowhere fast :lol
yeah that and 26 deg’s of timing and 20psi will get you some sexy pistons too! lol
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