# Every reason in the world NOT to street race **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 7, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661 "2008-06-07T05:28:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/101 "2008-06-08T09:42:04Z")
lets argue some more about the law :walter: bottom line Clark wants publicity, people need someone to blame, and the politically correct need something to tussle about like a bunch of rich housewifes with nothing else to do but debate useless causes just like this so unless there is going to be a complete change in this thread back to its original point i think it should be closed ---
**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/102 "2008-06-08T09:43:54Z")
> [@TrueBlue](#): > > Regardless of whether or not you agree or disagree with this, be advised - this is how WNY can respond to street racing. agreed. shouldnt be doing 120 on transit anyways ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/103 "2008-06-08T10:17:46Z")
> [@zklug1013](#): > > **people need someone to blame** this IS the problem. the charges are stupid. especially if they were requested from the dead driver’s family. anyways, they’ll never go through. he wont’ even go to jail. he just wont have a license for a very long time. ---
**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/104 "2008-06-08T10:34:52Z")
> [@Zong](#): > > this IS the problem. > > the charges are stupid. especially if they were requested from the dead driver’s family. As awlays in this overly litigous society. Seeing this like this pisses me off. There is no common sense in the legal system or society these days. Everyone needs a scape-goat and wants to point the finger at someone. And if a media attn whore like Frank Clark can get some more pub and piss away more of our hard earned tax dollars in doing such that’ sexactly what he’s going to do. Lets face it. Frank CLark is doing htis for HIMSELF. He’s not doing this for the good of society he doing it for attention and for a feather is his cap. I feel bad for this kid involved, He did something stoopid, something that almost everyojne on this board has done more than once. Somelese dieed because of their own stupidity and lack of driving ability, not this kid comes forward and admits he was the one radcing because he has a conscience and that’s what the police asked for. He knows he’s in trouble and the damage was done but he, admitting his mistake is owning up to what he did wrong. Now beacuse he cooperated and did what the police asked this is what they do? Try to get him for criminally neglant hommicide? Fuck cooperating with the police. This kid is a better human being then I because I wouldn’t have said shit, for this EXACT reason, What you can’t trust the cops and the DA’s office? NO shit! ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/105 "2008-06-08T11:10:16Z")
> [@zklug1013](#): > > so unless there is going to be a complete change in this thread back to its original point i think it should be closed this thread is about what could happen/the penalties if you street race and if someone dies as a result. everything that has been posted in this thread is on topic. everyone already knows street racing is bad. :fyi: ---
**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/106 "2008-06-08T11:18:30Z")
> [@rj-92](#): > > Lets face it. Frank CLark is doing htis for HIMSELF. He’s not doing this for the good of society he doing it for attention and for a feather is his cap. :tup: The point is people need to take responsibility for their OWN actions and stop blaming everyone else, i.e Neon driver… FUCK\> ---
**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/107 "2008-06-08T11:26:54Z")
> [@95LS1t](#): > > this thread is about what could happen/the penalties if you street race and if someone dies as a result. > > everything that has been posted in this thread is on topic. everyone already knows street racing is bad. :fyi: right there wasnt any bickering back and forth of off topic bs (like this) ---
**Author:** ![Oasis24-7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c89c15/32.png) [@Oasis24-7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oasis24-7)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/108 "2008-06-08T11:34:56Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > I think the point is charging the salespeople makes as much sense as charging the other driver. It just goes along with the “sue everyone” attitude…everyone who had a hand in it is to blame, not the person whose sole fault it was because they have been turned into a victim. Wow thank you thats exactly my point! > [@TrueBlue](#): > > Regardless of whether or not you agree or disagree with this, be advised - this is how WNY can respond to street racing. sucks dosen’t it. > [@rj-92](#): > > Somelese died because of their own stupidity and lack of driving ability, not this kid comes forward and admits he was the one racing because he has a conscience and that’s what the police asked for. He knows he’s in trouble and the damage was done but he, admitting his mistake is owning up to what he did wrong. Now beacuse he cooperated and did what the police asked this is what they do? Try to get him for criminally neglant hommicide? **Fuck cooperating with the police**. This kid is a better human being then I because I wouldn’t have said shit, for this EXACT reason, What you can’t trust the cops and the DA’s office? NO shit! ---
**Author:** ![HYBOOST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hyboost/32/5088_2.png) [@HYBOOST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HYBOOST)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/109 "2008-06-08T11:50:34Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Yea? So what if the people who died instigated the race? EXACTLY. Would it have happened? Maybe, maybe not. Would he have gotten on it hard to show off? Maybe maybe not, would he have crashed, probably not but only the good lord knows that answer. We need to take responsiblity for our actions & not blame everyone else for every misfortune. He might have raced at the next light with someone else, crashed into another car & killed someone else not even involved with the race, which would be even more tragic. Should the kid be in trouble? Sure, pay a fine, yup, lose his license? absolutely! face jail time cuz he took part in a mutually agreed upon street race, & the other driver lost control of his car because of his own inexperience? I think not… Think about this, If the other racer is responsible for the deaths, Maybe the moderators of this & all car club sites should be held accountable due to promoting a “Kills” section on their sites. Before saying “we don’t condone street racing” stop B.S.ing yourselves cuz everyone knows where 80% of these “kills” occur. It starts with us, I for one, have not street raced once since & will not street race again… ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/110 "2008-06-08T11:55:30Z")
:word: ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/111 "2008-06-08T12:05:09Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#): > > “Lancaster police investigating the crash have determined that the two vehicles did not collide; there was no obvious mechanical failure with Harhigh’s vehicle; there have been no signs of alcohol or drug use; and Harhigh may have been unfamiliar with the standard shift of his vehicle, which he had had for only a couple of days.” > > we sold the kid the car 2 days prior and it really screwed up the salesrep and the finance girl who did the paperwork. They both felt really guilty and still do because he wasn’t totally comfortable driving the car and they knew it. However it was his fault for street racing as well as the kid in the other car and no one else’s. They were both old enough to know the risks and they chose to do what they did. I’m glad they are charging him with manslaughter because the police need to crack down hard on street racing. _These idiots who are street racing at ridiculous speeds need to to take it to the f%$&ing track_ and stop putting their lives in danger as well as people in other vehicles. Everyone takes off from a light quickly or does a pulll now and then but to get to 120+mph on transit is utterly retarded. It will affect us all because the police will be alot tougher but I don’t mind because I like being able to go home to my wife alive. i was going to shut up because I think you are a great member of this board. now i remember seeing a vid of your “stag cruise” now lets say in this cruise chuck hit something or spun out during a pull.You should be charged with manslaughter then right? i also remember roads like transit in this cruise ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/112 "2008-06-08T12:22:25Z")
THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD IS NOT WHAT YOU **SHOULD** BE CHARGED WITH BUT WHAT YOU CAN BE CHARGED WITH FOR STREET RACING AND HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TRAGEDY OCCUR. JESUS PEOPLE…GROW THE FUCK UP ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/113 "2008-06-08T13:31:18Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > i was going to shut up because I think you are a great member of this board. now i remember seeing a vid of your “stag cruise” now lets say in this cruise chuck hit something or spun out during a pull.You should be charged with manslaughter then right? i also remember roads like transit in this cruise we didn’t get up to any high speeds… it just looked like it because Onyx is agreat editor. Burnouts…yes but nobody got over 75-80 because there was no room to get up to that speed. Have you ever driven over 80? I was going to respond to all the people who think the dealership is at fault but then I remembered they are all retarded. The kid was capable of driving he just wasn’t comfortable with a car with that much power so pull your heads out of your asses and then I will waste my time with you. The dealership did nothing wrong. Period. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661/114 "2008-06-08T14:44:44Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#): > > THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD IS NOT WHAT YOU **SHOULD** BE CHARGED WITH BUT WHAT YOU **CAN AND WILL** BE CHARGED WITH FOR STREET RACING AND HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TRAGEDY OCCUR. > > JESUS PEOPLE…GROW THE FUCK UP fixed. Thats enough, this is way past the OP intent. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-reason-in-the-world-not-to-street-race/49661.md?page=5)