# evo engine management decision

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-engine-management-decision/2293>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [September 12, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-engine-management-decision/2293 "2005-09-12T18:36:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-engine-management-decision/2293/41 "2005-09-14T18:33:19Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> There is soo much more to that story than you will ever know and there is info I cannot get into here about the whole dyno flash thing…odds are they are receiving a good kick back for recommending it and it is more profitable to send the ecu out rather than spend time wiring and tuning,
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> Buschur is a profit whore…but with a family and cars i cant blame him, lord knows i would kill to be at his level of financial success…keyword financial.

i’d like it if we could discuss this further sometime soon, as i really believe in what i said, about the whole buschur situation being a flod of propoganda. I’m not necessarily questioning the quality of the work that comes out of his shop ( well, besides the methanol kit they use :bloated: ), just the tactics etc.

lmk

> [@halas](#):
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> .snip.

i agree with you entirely, it’s just the immediate financial investment of a standalone which is somewhat overwhelming compared to a ~$400 custom flash

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-engine-management-decision/2293/42 "2005-09-15T07:33:50Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> Do you know for a fact you have more than 400hp? Do you have a turbo or a dyno sheet to prove it? World record on stock turbo was 408 whp last time i checked.

I will have to call The Guiness Book.  
j/k

Buschur claims about 360-370whp with a 25% drivetrain loss that equals somewhere around 450.  
Is it really 360 at the wheels? I don’t know.  
I don’t drag race but my handy dandy G-TECH PRO says I can do the 1/4 mile in just over 12 seconds.

So, no I don’t have proof but it is probably at least 350-360 at the wheels.:gotme:

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**Author:** ![TRDHarrier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@TRDHarrier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TRDHarrier)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-engine-management-decision/2293/43 "2005-10-06T10:41:31Z")

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i would go dynoflash

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**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-engine-management-decision/2293/44 "2005-10-06T10:42:35Z")

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lol why are you digging up old threads :lol:

thanks for the input john, but i already have made my plans for the winter :tup:

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**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-engine-management-decision/2293/45 "2005-10-06T23:24:59Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> I will have to call The Guiness Book.  
> j/k
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> Buschur claims about 360-370whp with a 25% drivetrain loss that equals somewhere around 450.  
> Is it really 360 at the wheels? I don’t know.  
> I don’t drag race but my handy dandy G-TECH PRO says I can do the 1/4 mile in just over 12 seconds.
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> So, no I don’t have proof but it is probably at least 350-360 at the wheels.:gotme:

The reason I ask is because he has told other customers of mine the same thing and their cars barely ran. Not trying to be a dick to you in anyway

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2005, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-engine-management-decision/2293/46 "2005-10-07T06:27:42Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> The reason I ask is because he has told other customers of mine the same thing and their cars barely ran. Not trying to be a dick to you in anyway

I first used the Apexi unit and then went to the flash and both have worked very well.  
I have really enjoyed trouble free driving for years now.(other than boost leaks)  
Maybe there was something else causing problems with those other cars or maybe the install was bad.:gotme:

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