# evo IV or evo X??

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 4, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605 "2010-11-04T18:58:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![nytalonTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nytalontsi/32/5399_2.png) [@nytalonTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nytalonTSi)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/21 "2010-11-05T11:56:49Z")

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> [@maxwell](#):
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> I have read that the mr 6spd transmission is pretty weak. Stick with the 5 speed.

I used to believe the same thing, not true though. A healthy 6spd is good for 450whp, and now they build 6spd’s.

In reality all Mitsu trans suck, poor synchros from the factory. The 5 spd is just as bad, their all notchy. You can always get it built.

It’s like how they say a stock Evo clutch is weak, when the truth is a healthy stock clutch has held up to power gains.

I love my VIII, and yeah the ACD is useless to me but it’s not that bad.

If there was a clean IX when I was looking, I would of been all over it 🙂

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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/22 "2010-11-05T12:00:45Z")

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^ Took me MONTHS to find a clean IX. I swear the FS section on evolutionm is sponsored by Vin Diesel

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/23 "2010-11-05T12:24:35Z")

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> [@TrueBlue](#):
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> I swear the FS section on evolutionm is sponsored by Vin Diesel

I agree lol. It’s one of those things you have to take your time with. Lot’s of research!

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/24 "2010-11-05T12:43:06Z")

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the mr transmission seems a lot smoother than a gsr/rs , plus you get one more gear to row :). if you’re not building some siq street monster i dont see why you would pick a gsr over an mr other than having a moonroof in the gsr

and viii ix are solid deck blocks, x is open deck.  
Id personally rather have a ix, however for the price difference i would probably end up “settling” for an viii

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/25 "2010-11-05T12:51:55Z")

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ya im not sure, its really going to come down to which i can find at the right price, it seems like low mileage IX (someone change title please lol) are going for about the same price as a similar mileage X

i guess i just have to do a lot of research, id love to find an evo IX mr for under 20,000 with less than 40,000 miles

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/26 "2010-11-05T12:53:39Z")

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> [@sobo](#):
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> Mivec is hard to tune. There are things in the evo IX ecu that people still don’t know what it does.

No it’s not, you don’t have to change anything. Just treat it like an 8 and you’re fine. A good tuner can mess with the mivec timing, but it’s not really needed.

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/27 "2010-11-05T13:02:00Z")

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is mivec similar to vtec? or similar to vvti?

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/28 "2010-11-05T13:08:38Z")

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Yup, I believe it is just the exhaust cam timing, but I haven’t messed with it much. I am pretty confident it is mostly for emissions reasons, and not power reasons. On the dyno, we were playing around with it, with little to no gains.

–mark

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/29 "2010-11-05T13:09:48Z")

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> [@deebo](#):
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> the mr transmission seems a lot smoother than a gsr/rs , plus you get one more gear to row :). if you’re not building some siq street monster i dont see why you would pick a gsr over an mr other than having a moonroof in the gsr
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> and viii ix are solid deck blocks, x is open deck.  
> Id personally rather have a ix, however for the price difference i would probably end up “settling” for an viii

Yeah the MR has teflon coating in the shift linkage. Though mine is notchy, I’m glad I won’t be driving it this winter. I skip 2nd till the trans warms up.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/30 "2010-11-05T13:36:47Z")

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I’ve noticed on downshifts mine doesn’t seem to like 4th, and first is iffy unless I pump the clutch. I still need to do a clutch alignment on it, though.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/31 "2010-11-05T13:58:30Z")

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> [@neonglh](#):
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> No it’s not, you don’t have to change anything. Just treat it like an 8 and you’re fine. A good tuner can mess with the mivec timing, but it’s not really needed.

If your a DIYer it certainly adds to the confusion! I suppose you could leave it but from what I’ve experienced thus far with my evo, simplier is better.

Hence why I stand behind the point of getting an VIII. Less drivetrain nonsense. Don’t buy an MR either, yeah you get a “smooth” 6 speed. But you also are giving your car an expensive weak point AND chances are you could have a smooth 5 speed by simply changing fluid or buying the right clutch. Also the 6 speed doesn’t help your gas economy, it’s only like 100 rpm less at 65 than the 5 speed. Parts are cheaper as a whole for the 5 speed.

And relatively speaking, you get almost the same styling and interior quality between the VIII and IX. It’s up to you whether you want less or more on your car, because generally speaking they are pretty much the same car.

I just prefer the VIII because they’re cheaper in a lot of ways. There are benefits to getting a IX, just not enough for me to justify paying more of an evo tax.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/32 "2010-11-05T14:12:26Z")

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> [@sobo](#):
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> There are benefits to getting a XI

Pics of said XI?

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/33 "2010-11-05T14:16:05Z")

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FU does it look like I’m roman?

Lol.

Edited

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/34 "2010-11-05T14:27:26Z")

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:slap:

Can you tell it’s close to quitting time for the weekend?! ahah

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/35 "2010-11-05T14:39:38Z")

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Either 5spd or 6spd is fine if its been taken car of and correct fluids used. Its more what you prefer to have with bolt-ons. But if u are drag racing the 5 speed is good seeing as less gears=more power band. But he’s looking for a DD so either will do.

If you want a less notchy shifting Evo trans, adjust your pedal, replace underhood/shifter base bushing and switch to equivlent weight castrol syntorq trans fluid.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/36 "2010-11-05T14:55:55Z")

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well i am currently looking at an 06 MR with 26k miles, is there anything i should check out before i buy the car? i called mitsubishi and the car still has a valid warranty untill august of next year but I am pretty sure that is drivetrain only

would the MR be “the” car to get, it has navigation, leather and a moonroof

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/37 "2010-11-05T15:09:45Z")

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Afaik, the MR did not come with an option for a moonroof just an aluminum roof. They had the MR with leather and a sound system. And have not heard of a Evo 9 that came with navigation from the factory just the X’s.

I would give the dealer a call to see if the car was ever in for repairs and what they were.

Edit: As far as the MR being the car to get, that’s your preference. I have an MR, but do I think the additional things an MR comes with is worth the extra price? Not really.

You get the awesome looking lightweight BBS wheels, a tight Bilstein suspension, the same roof that an RS gets and the 6spd they also give you these corny 3 gauges.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/38 "2010-11-05T15:26:07Z")

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what gauges? pics, and i guess i will double check the roof

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that looks like a roof, and according to the vin its an MR

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/39 "2010-11-05T15:30:35Z")

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Hmm no pics on my phone. But they give you, battery voltage, oil temp and a boost gauge that reads in kg/cm lol like we live in Japan.

I meant to tell you, the MR only comes with an aluminum roof like a RS. And no Evo IX MR came with leather, moonroof or navigation.

Are you positive it is a MR?

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-iv-or-evo-x/205605/40 "2010-11-05T15:34:36Z")

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maybe its just a reflection?? who knows

interior  
 ![http://images.autotrader.com/scaler/565/421/images/2010/9/2/269/664/17256711777.269664528.IM1.05.565x421_A.562x421.jpg](http://images.autotrader.com/scaler/565/421/images/2010/9/2/269/664/17256711777.269664528.IM1.05.565x421_A.562x421.jpg)

rear showing MR badge  
 ![http://images.autotrader.com/scaler/565/421/images/2010/9/2/269/664/17256047231.269664528.IM1.07.565x421_A.562x421.jpg](http://images.autotrader.com/scaler/565/421/images/2010/9/2/269/664/17256047231.269664528.IM1.07.565x421_A.562x421.jpg)

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