# Excessive maintenance? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 30, 2007, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167 "2007-07-30T06:18:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chickenball\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@chickenball\_z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chickenball_z)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/1 "2007-07-30T06:18:12Z")
I’m going to be getting my timing belt done soon, along with all the usually stuff. However, I’ve been told (by other owners, not the shop), that I should do the following for preventative maintenance, since it’s the same area and will save labor: cam seals crank seal balance shaft seal valve/head cover gasket retainer The part are cheap, but I’ll be paying an extra $200-$250ish to get these things done. So the question: Replacing those parts necessary (if they don’t fail often)? Or it should be done for maintenance sake? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/2 "2007-07-30T06:28:15Z")
What kind of car? Do you want to pay a little more now, or possibly a lot more later? I’d say it all depends on the car. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/3 "2007-07-30T06:28:29Z")
Depends on the car. Most vehicles have their water pumps located behind the timing belt so you would have to take the belt off to remove those parts. In this case it is wise to replace the waterpump at that time. This ensures that the parts is good and “shouldn’t” fail in say the next week and have to do all the labor all over again. With Mitsubishis. It is recommended to replace those seals because most of the time they are leaking a little, and if they are leaking…the oil gets on the belt. Which will make it fail. If this is a mitsu it shouldn’t be 200-250 extra to replace these though. Not sure what kind of car you are talking about. If it were me, I would replace those things for peace of mind. I don’t see many cars costing that much to replace those things once the belt is off. That too me sounds like a little much. What is the retainer? Do it right, or do it twice. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/4 "2007-07-30T06:29:56Z")
[quote=“Carnut,post:3,topic:33167"”] Do it right, or do it twice. [/quote] Pretty much. Unless you’re into gambling, then maybe you could beat the odds, do only what’s necessary and sell the car before anything bad happens to you. :meh: ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/5 "2007-07-30T06:47:19Z")
[quote=“Carnut,post:3,topic:33167"”] If it were me, I would replace those things for peace of mind. I don’t see many cars costing that much to replace those things once the belt is off. That too me sounds like a little much. What is the retainer? Do it right, or do it twice. [/quote] :word: What kind of car? ---
**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/6 "2007-07-30T06:49:19Z")
better safe than sorry. do it ---
**Author:** ![chickenball\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@chickenball\_z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chickenball_z)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/7 "2007-07-30T07:03:28Z")
sorry, should have mentioned it’s a 5th gen Prelude the stuff that will be done: t-belt, balance belt, water pump the stuff I’m 90% sure will choose to do: auto tensioner (supposedly it fails with regularity on the 5th gens) so it’s all the other stuff I’ve listed I’m thinking about $200 is not that bad, it’s just that in a month or so, I’ll be under a severe budget…so I want to separate what should be done, and what can wait another 80k miles (my car has approx 80k now) ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/8 "2007-07-30T07:04:02Z")
I love it, another I need advice about my car, but I won’t mention what it is. :ham: X… ---
**Author:** ![chickenball\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@chickenball\_z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chickenball_z)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/9 "2007-08-02T07:01:36Z")
so the concensus is do it? is there anything else I should do while I’m at it? ---
**Author:** ![tonymitss5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@tonymitss5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tonymitss5)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/10 "2007-08-02T08:24:51Z")
If its a Honda definitely do everything you listed. Cam seals will start leaking on a Honda around 100K miles. Crank seals, balance shaft seals as well. Valve Cover gasket is a DIY so don’t work about that now. Head gasket I wouldn;t worry about either even on an H22a. As Don said earlier, when the other seals start leaking, like the Cam seals the little bit of oil will leak off and drip down inside your timing cover, getting oil on the belt. Then you will start noticing a drip spot the size of a dime on the ground directly beneath the lower timing belt cover. I suggest you buy all OEM parts go to [www.majestichonda.com](http://www.majestichonda.com) parts are very inexpensive all OEM. I buy all my Honda parts from them. Reason I say this is, on my mothers, now my sisters 1995 Accord V6 we had the H20 and water pump replaced around 55-60K miles like Honda recommended. We had at done at a shop, that didn’t use Honda parts. 13 months later (right out of the 12 month/12K parts and labor warrenty) the water pump started leaking. The $18 water pump was covered, we paid another $380 in labor though. Retarded. ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/excessive-maintenance/33167/11 "2007-08-02T10:59:48Z")
i wont do a timing belt without the tensioner