# ezpass...speed tracking??? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 2, 2006, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801 "2006-03-02T14:01:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/21 "2006-03-02T18:10:17Z")
> [@Rx3](#): > > Fix your transponder detector 😛 > > It’s using a microwave pulse as part of a point to point system. It’s a very low power frequency, and it will only trip when told to. If you look at the approach to the toll booths, the transponder doesn’t transmit until it gets the signal from the box up top (or camera). The pulse is so low your average transponder detector won’t pick it up. Also depending on the harmonics involved, you will probably never detect it. So it remains off most of the time. > > Therefore, the NY E-Z Pass system in it’s current form cannot be accurately used to track you because it is not a constant signal being used. They can only track which toll booth you went through with a time and date stamp. Once you are in between toll booths, they have no idea where you are until you tag back in at the next offramp. > > Plus, the E-Z PAss if you were to be tracked by it would have to be constantly on. The battery drain would be rediculous. How do you think you are able to have an E-ZPass and never replace the thing for 4+ years? > > The only way they could even begin to track you would be to setup multiple (i.e. MANY) transponders at periodic mile points along every interstate to tag your pass. That woulld not happen in my opinion because: > > 1. Too much money for all that equipment, and probably wouldn’t balance out revenue generated. > > 2. Lots of people bitching that their E-Z Pass died/stopped working within 3-5 months of them having it (if not sooner) because the battery would constantly be in use. > > Now if you’ve noticed in other states, and CAnada (407 and a few others) there are multiple transponders, but they don’t stretch the length of the highway. I think they are just there as secondary and tertiary contact points incase the main toll reader missed you. These places also allow yu to drive through at over 50mph. > > You have a better probability of being tracked by your **cellphone** than with an E-Z Pass, just because of the proliferation of towers and the strength of the signal. How many of you turn off your cellphones? :snky: > > Don’t everyone get your tin-foil hats all at once now. this entire post is the only funny thing you have ever posted. ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/22 "2006-03-02T18:11:39Z")
:word: SOmeone is on Rix’s account… someone put it on lokdown now!!! He must be prepping for the :lockd: or something ---
**Author:** ![AKA-FERRARI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aka-ferrari/32/7260_2.png) [@AKA-FERRARI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AKA-FERRARI)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/23 "2006-03-02T18:17:04Z")
> [@Rx3](#): > > Fix your transponder detector 😛 > > It’s using a microwave pulse as part of a point to point system. It’s a very low power frequency, and it will only trip when told to. If you look at the approach to the toll booths, the transponder doesn’t transmit until it gets the signal from the box up top (or camera). The pulse is so low your average transponder detector won’t pick it up. Also depending on the harmonics involved, you will probably never detect it. So it remains off most of the time. > > Therefore, the NY E-Z Pass system in it’s current form cannot be accurately used to track you because it is not a constant signal being used. They can only track which toll booth you went through with a time and date stamp. Once you are in between toll booths, they have no idea where you are until you tag back in at the next offramp. > > Plus, the E-Z PAss if you were to be tracked by it would have to be constantly on. The battery drain would be rediculous. How do you think you are able to have an E-ZPass and never replace the thing for 4+ years? > > The only way they could even begin to track you would be to setup multiple (i.e. MANY) transponders at periodic mile points along every interstate to tag your pass. That woulld not happen in my opinion because: > > 1. Too much money for all that equipment, and probably wouldn’t balance out revenue generated. > > 2. Lots of people bitching that their E-Z Pass died/stopped working within 3-5 months of them having it (if not sooner) because the battery would constantly be in use. > > Now if you’ve noticed in other states, and CAnada (407 and a few others) there are multiple transponders, but they don’t stretch the length of the highway. I think they are just there as secondary and tertiary contact points incase the main toll reader missed you. These places also allow yu to drive through at over 50mph. > > You have a better probability of being tracked by your **cellphone** than with an E-Z Pass, just because of the proliferation of towers and the strength of the signal. How many of you turn off your cellphones? :snky: > > Don’t everyone get your tin-foil hats all at once now. yea…im not so sure u understand completelly what im asking p.s…holy unprovoked rant…:rant: ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/24 "2006-03-02T18:31:45Z")
Can’t you appreciate a good conspiracy theory? I understood just fine, see post #10. ---
**Author:** ![AKA-FERRARI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aka-ferrari/32/7260_2.png) [@AKA-FERRARI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AKA-FERRARI)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/25 "2006-03-02T18:42:34Z")
> [@Rx3](#): > > Can’t you appreciate a good conspiracy theory? > > I understood just fine, see post #10. sorry …must have looked past that post. ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/26 "2006-03-02T20:06:49Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > No. I’ve clocked off some sweet times from here to NYIRP with no problems. i’ve made it to fredonia from west seneca in just over 30 min, which i think is an avg of around 90 mph on many trips and never had a problem with ezpass. ---
**Author:** ![9ONA3OOZX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9ona3oozx/32/7242_2.png) [@9ONA3OOZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9ONA3OOZX)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/27 "2006-03-02T20:26:27Z")
i’m not law student…but dont you have the right to face your accuser (aka the one you sees you speeding) in court? if they just have a time slot and a distance, nobody actually saw you speeding…so you are being denied your right to face the one who accuses you of the crime? i remember hearing that beacuse i heard of cameras installed in street lights to catch people running red lights… i’m probably totally wrong, but it’s worth throwing out there so i can at least learn what the facts of the matter are… ---
**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/28 "2006-03-02T20:31:45Z")
they cant ticket you for that… however, those records are discoverable to LE and in court… ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/29 "2006-03-02T20:44:02Z")
i wouldnet be surprised if NY state developed some kind of timer to check speed…like in nascar…it takes a certain time to get from point A to point B… but they would also have to factor in food and gas stops so it probly wouldnt work…but I could see them doing somethign like that ---
**Author:** ![MrFliGSR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mrfligsr/32/3069_2.png) [@MrFliGSR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MrFliGSR)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/30 "2006-03-02T20:58:49Z")
They do it on the OHIO Turnpike quite often. The LaPorte Toll RD in Indiana they do it also. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/31 "2006-03-03T05:32:14Z")
I have a friend that said he got one. He is an oncologist in NYC, and once of the nicest guys I know, so I couldn’t imagine him lying about it. He says that he takes breaks when he travels on the thruway now, so that it doesn’t happen again. Also, if the want a moving violation to hold up in court, they have to prove it was you. All you have to do is prove you weren’t driving at that time, and they have to drop it. Either way, I am NOT getting one, just in case. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Beckington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Beckington](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Beckington)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/32 "2006-03-03T05:57:07Z")
my son knows. i’ll ask him later. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/33 "2006-03-03T06:23:54Z")
Relax, it won’t happen X… ---
**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/34 "2006-03-03T07:09:35Z")
ive heard of it in other states too, not in nys yet though. ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/35 "2006-03-03T07:56:33Z")
the first time i wentto black lake, i did 100 mph all the way down the 90 and i wound up with a nice even time, something like just under 1.5 hours, when the tool booth guy looked at it, and it instantly registered with him he pointed at the card and said “9 oclock?” i denied it and drove off, lol he could have easily alerted either of the 2 trooper patrol cars that were sitting right there, but didnt if he knows the distance from syracuse tolls to the airport, he could easily figure out that i did 100 the whole way (entire trip the speedo was betwen 95 and 110) ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801/36 "2006-03-03T08:10:06Z")
Too many ideal conditions have to exist for this to actually work and prosecute this. If you’ve ever used a trip comuter that uses average speed, you’ll see that it is usualy about 10mph lower than what you drove the whole time. Stopping at the tolls for even a minute, and getting up to speed plus you can’t do a certain speed for the whole time (traffic). Add in the fact that they can’t see the driver, but only the vehicle… X… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ezpass-speed-tracking/8801.md?page=1)