# F.O.B. = ? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [February 19, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785 "2005-02-19T23:00:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/1 "2005-02-19T23:00:02Z")
when things are being purchased internationally what does the term F.O.B stand for? i know it has something to do with shipping but not 100% sure. thanks ---
**Author:** ![face](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/face/32/5504_2.png) [@face](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/face)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/2 "2005-02-19T23:12:03Z")
fresh off the boat ^^. lol, nah, it stands for free on board. as [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) explains… Without charge to the purchaser for delivery on board or into a carrier at a specified point or location. ---
**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/3 "2005-02-19T23:14:48Z")
freight on board is what I originally thought it meant. Now that I looked it up it’s… **Free on Board** “The seller fulfills his obligations to deliver when the goods have passed over the ship’s rail.” – [http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fob.asp](http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fob.asp) In other words the seller is responsible for the goods until they are on the ship. The buyer bears all costs and risks of loss or damage to the goods from that point forward. The proper way of using it is to say FOB [port of shipment]. Say if you’re sending an R32 from an auction house in Sapporo to a shipyard in Yokohama, you’d put “F.O.B. Yokhohama” if you wanna be all fancy shmancy proper about it. It means you as the seller are responsible for delivering the car past the rail on the ship. Once it’s on there it’s out of your hands. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/4 "2005-02-19T23:29:16Z")
ok… so if i were to buy say a sony PSP from china FOB is he including shipping? or is he just waiving liability when it hits the outbound port? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@Mr\_zero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_zero)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/5 "2005-02-19T23:46:33Z")
Sounds like as soon as that package leaves his hands, and is on the boat, you are responsible for everything. I would think this means that he will get it ON the boat, it is just your responsibility once that happens. Correct me if I am wrong… ---
**Author:** ![dip](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dip/32/5479_2.png) [@dip](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dip)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/6 "2005-02-20T07:06:59Z")
exactly, he has full responsibility for getting it too the boat and over the ships rail, after that you have to cover duty, and are responsible for damages during shipping (insurance) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/7 "2005-02-20T09:17:38Z")
do shipping charges work differently then? if he is getting it on the boat then i wouldnt have to pay the shipping. just insurance and duty. dont we pay for insurance when we pay for shipping? who has done this before? ---
**Author:** ![NiTeRiDeR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dfb087/32.png) [@NiTeRiDeR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NiTeRiDeR)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/8 "2005-02-20T16:11:45Z")
My first GTR was shipped FOB… supplier dealt with everything UP TO the port in Osaka, then I paid/managed the rest of the way. CIF terms is what my new one is being shipped with… Everything is covered until the port in New Westminster (BC). If you ever hear of EX WORKS… run like a motherfucker… that means you are responsible for getting it shipped from WHEREVER IT IS in the other country, to you. The seller isnt even responsible for taking it to a shipping centre or anything. _Spell check performed by MajicMunky_ ---
**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/9 "2005-02-20T16:29:53Z")
Hey Justin, what does CIF stand for? btw nice car 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NiTeRiDeR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dfb087/32.png) [@NiTeRiDeR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NiTeRiDeR)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/10 "2005-02-20T16:41:03Z")
www.google.ca \> you ---
**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-o-b/83785/11 "2005-02-20T16:53:37Z")
apparently not… CIF: **Cost, Freight and Insurance** basically it means the seller is responsible for paying shipping as well as well as insurance. HOWEVER, seller only has to pay for the minimum insurance. If you want more coverage, you gotta take care of that yourself.