# F1 1986 vs. F1 2011

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 12, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702 "2012-01-12T07:30:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/1 "2012-01-12T07:30:43Z")

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Saw this on another forum and thought it was a cool side by side comparison to see how far technology has come in 25 yrs.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/2 "2012-01-12T07:48:28Z")

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I don’t want to turn this into a debate about how technology effects motorsports, so I’ll just say that was an entertaining view into how motorsports have changed in the past 20 odd years.

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**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/3 "2012-01-12T08:19:51Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> I don’t want to turn this into a debate about how technology effects motorsports,

Why even mention it to begin with or bother with a reply?  
:ham:

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**Author:** ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/4 "2012-01-12T08:34:26Z")

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The 2011 version looks like a dumb video game where the laws of physics don’t exist. I like the feel of the '86…seems more pure.

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**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/5 "2012-01-12T08:43:38Z")

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This doesn’t seem like it’s the best comparison that they could have done…

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**Author:** ![Neon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f19dbf/32.png) [@Neon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neon)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/6 "2012-01-12T08:47:52Z")

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Where are the improvements besides better cameras?

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**Author:** ![MrSmith](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mrsmith/32/5254_2.png) [@MrSmith](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MrSmith)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/7 "2012-01-12T08:48:32Z")

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If you read the comments that was a warmup lap for Senna. He had the pole in 85 at 1:20:45 and Prost had it in 86 at 1:22:627. Wonder what Senna could have done with modern 2011 tires back in 1985 with no other changes.

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**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/8 "2012-01-12T09:20:51Z")

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Here, if you guys have 2 hours to kill watching video’s on line during your work day, check these out. I fucking love how they have to assemble the block with that bridge and watching them make the block is amazing.

[https://youtu.be/xbB1qwhKaaE](https://youtu.be/xbB1qwhKaaE)

[https://youtu.be/gqfVAGOaGEc](https://youtu.be/gqfVAGOaGEc)

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**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/9 "2012-01-12T09:55:31Z")

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I saw my first live f1 race this summer…the Canadian GP. I was glad that it rained. Got to actually see the drivers work to stay in control. They looked like slot cars in the dry sessions. Made for a very entertaining race.

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/10 "2012-01-12T16:54:40Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> I don’t want to turn this into a debate about how technology effects motorsports, so I’ll just say that was an entertaining view into how motorsports have changed in the past 20 odd years.

I feel like most would agree that technology has ruined motorsports to a degree.

Hell, I would even watch nascar if the cars still looked anything like this.

 ![http://deansgarage.com/wp-content/gallery/rir-mikeparris/bonnett-leads-in-turn-8.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/6/e/6e1a49e2c13f91219042bf4d4ca3e28049c8346f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/11 "2012-01-12T17:21:51Z")

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That guy in '86 would have probably run faster if he kept both hands on the wheel.

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**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/12 "2012-01-12T17:22:03Z")

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“There is nothing stock about a stock car”

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/13 "2012-01-12T17:25:16Z")

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> [@Minglor](#):
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> I feel like most would agree that technology has ruined motorsports to a degree.
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> Hell, I would even watch nascar if the cars still looked anything like this.
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> ![http://deansgarage.com/wp-content/gallery/rir-mikeparris/bonnett-leads-in-turn-8.jpg](http://deansgarage.com/wp-content/gallery/rir-mikeparris/bonnett-leads-in-turn-8.jpg)

+1

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/14 "2012-01-12T17:41:48Z")

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I’d prefer stock cars over “stock cars” … you put a **stock** Mustang and a **stock** Camaro with a couple Challengers, EVO, STI, etc (Sub-40k) on a track with some drivers and then the musclecar wars will really be on.

Same track, same day. Better than magazine racing!

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/15 "2012-01-13T02:53:28Z")

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^^ I’m with jack, the firehawk series ( not the stupid F bod) used to run like that, they were awesome to watch.

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**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-1986-vs-f1-2011/219702/16 "2012-01-13T03:15:02Z")

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> [@Minglor](#):
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> I feel like most would agree that technology has ruined motorsports to a degree.

I agree with that to a certain degree.  
I also think money/huge sponsorships has had a part in it as well.
