# F1 tuning claims 30% hp increase, 40% tq increase, you believe it?

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [November 26, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754 "2010-11-26T17:51:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/221 "2010-12-05T13:04:45Z")

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go ahead and email it to [singhiskingh@gmail.com](mailto:singhiskingh@gmail.com)

you cant link it because its on your pc, not the internet. it has to be put on the internet first lol

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/222 "2010-12-05T13:09:11Z")

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wow this got good.

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**Author:** ![tpetrolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@tpetrolo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpetrolo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/223 "2010-12-05T13:14:24Z")

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> [@FS: 1988 Chrysler Conquest TSi SHP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1988-chrysler-conquest-tsi-shp/37288/7):
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> go ahead and email it to [singhiskingh@gmail.com](mailto:singhiskingh@gmail.com)
> 
> you cant link it because its on your pc, not the internet. it has to be put on the internet first lol

Well you have now…  
so see and post them…

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/224 "2010-12-05T13:16:45Z")

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i gotta resize them down to a suitable size because they are like 3mb each, that would of sucked if you posted them as is.

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/225 "2010-12-05T13:24:12Z")

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![http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/683/longislandshow.jpg](http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/683/longislandshow.jpg)

![http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/188/limerockshow.jpg](http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/188/limerockshow.jpg)

![http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7391/concourstrophy.jpg](http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7391/concourstrophy.jpg)

thanks for the pictures, i dont know what its proving against my opinion that removing the stripes, and even those curb feeler things would make it look better… but thats alright.

wheels + ricer removal would definitely bring the car up from its current look

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**Author:** ![6spd\_ek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/45deac/32.png) [@6spd\_ek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6spd_ek)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/226 "2010-12-05T13:40:09Z")

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Tonino, you will most likely have to find another local dyno to test an automatic car on. The dynapack dyno & automatic transmissions do NOT work well together (the owner of the dyno, Morgan, knows this from experience) If you are going to go thru with the auto BMW tune you might want to try albany speed shop - I hate to turn business away from Synapse but when it comes to an automatic, it will have to be done. If you like call morgan tomorrow & ask, he may be able to do it but the car may not run well on the dyno & you may not be able to get it to stay in gear.

fyi there was no sign of clutch slippage on Dave’s car either at Synapse (outside) or inside on the dyno. If the car was suffering from a slipping clutch it would have shown on the dyno - which it did not.

about the dyno @ synapse. you can expect 16-19% drivetrain loss from Flywheel #'s to the numbers at the wheels(hub).  
-stock fwd 2006 k20z3 honda civic si made 167/137 (rated 200hp)  
-stock rwd 2001 F20c honda s2000 made 191/134 (rated 240hp)  
-stock rwd 2010 BMW 330i (twin turbo) made 250/287 (rated 302hp)

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**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/227 "2010-12-05T14:09:18Z")

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that is amazing someone would put that crap on a ferrari… talk about disrespect

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**Author:** ![d\_gage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_gage/32/6321_2.png) [@d\_gage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d_gage)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/228 "2010-12-05T14:26:53Z")

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Didn’t realize that Ferrari body style was that old, I’d love one of those things.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/229 "2010-12-05T14:27:51Z")

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wow, that ferrari is trying too hard. Should be embarrassed next to the F40.

I hope the engine work is a bit more respectful.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/230 "2010-12-05T14:30:57Z")

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> [@FS: 98 Blazer LS. $3000BO PICTURES UP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-98-blazer-ls-3000bo-pictures-up/37648/16):
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> I’m a little confused, no one would sell a car because a tune didn’t produce enough HP. Also why would anyone spend $600 for tune and Dyno if they were going to sell the car.  
> Now he can return the car to stock ,get back his $449 and still sell it. But instead he wants just sell it.
> 
> This is all very, very strange. I have suspected from the start that there is issues with the Car
> 
> I’m willing to drive from Staten Island tomorrow @ 6 AM to Autohaus “3 1/2 hour” of driving each way.
> 
> If the owner won’t give me a chance to figure out what is wrong, and report to the forum, It only proves to me that the car was the problem,  
> But, I’m still going to tune auto Haus’s “540 auto” and when they dyno it the results will be posted on the forum.  
> One point I would like to talk about, why do a few forum members make negative comments and hasty decisions , before knowing all the facts. Just because someone makes a comment ,it doesn’t make it fact.  
> Once the Autohaus 540 is Dynoed the truth will come out.

I’ve been trying to sell my car for 3 months, its very strange that if someone comes with a deposit I dont jump on selling it right then and there? I never intended on selling the car originally so I painted it a custom one of a kind color that not alot of people are a fan of, when someone comes with cash or deposit I DONT let them leave. I drive the car every single day and twice a month to 47th street in Manhatten for business in THAT bmw, yea, MUCH is wrong with it lol…

I dont want to be ass an asshole or brag but lets put it this way… The $565 which is what I paid, NOT $449 is a joke to me, I made a youtube video about a year ago of me ripping up $1,500 and burning it when done just to prove that money isnt shit. The more money I spend the more money I make back, thats how I look at it. Youtube took that video down idk why or id post that for you…

I DO still have the car until tommorow or tuesday so if video taping me in my blue bmw YOU mis-tuned tokyo drifting it on the mean streets of Albany will prove that my BMW has absolutley no problems I’ll gladly do it for you.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/231 "2010-12-05T14:37:55Z")

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you’re a moron ^^^

this is sexy  
 ![http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Ferrari/Ferrari_348_Chlng_Grey26_DV-07_CCR_05.jpg](http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Ferrari/Ferrari_348_Chlng_Grey26_DV-07_CCR_05.jpg)

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**Author:** ![tpetrolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@tpetrolo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpetrolo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/232 "2010-12-05T14:41:58Z")

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> [@Introducing Voltron...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/introducing-voltron/34857/80):
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> Tonino, you will most likely have to find another local dyno to test an automatic car on. The dynapack dyno & automatic transmissions do NOT work well together (the owner of the dyno, Morgan, knows this from experience) If you are going to go thru with the auto BMW tune you might want to try albany speed shop - I hate to turn business away from Synapse but when it comes to an automatic, it will have to be done. If you like call morgan tomorrow & ask, he may be able to do it but the car may not run well on the dyno & you may not be able to get it to stay in gear.
> 
> fyi there was no sign of clutch slippage on Dave’s car either at Synapse (outside) or inside on the dyno. If the car was suffering from a slipping clutch it would have shown on the dyno - which it did not.
> 
> about the dyno @ synapse. you can expect 16-20% drivetrain loss from Flywheel #'s to the numbers at the wheels.  
> -stock 2006 k20z3 honda civic si made 167/137 (rated 200hp)  
> -stock rwd 2001 F20c honda s2000 made 191/134 (rated 240hp)

I am repeating once again, that I was willing to come up there and figure out what the problem is and show to all of you that tuning has nothing to do with the issue and to be able to switch mod to stock and vice versa @ the dyno and show proof/picture/video dyno results, and of course i would prefer the one in question.  
But as we all see the talking changes  
This seems to me that he is just making a huge stink out of nothing in order to get reimbursed and keep the tuning while the car has problems, first if the car has problems, and “I know 540 problems very well” once there is a tuning installed it amplifies the problem and makes it worst.  
BDW Trophy are given based on reason “concourse elegance” are not Sunday parking lot show  
“The curb wing” are made for aerodynamic reason to keep car more stable on high speed not for look.

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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/233 "2010-12-05T14:50:50Z")

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> [@Halloween Bash@Central Terminal](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/halloween-bash-central-terminal/37789/3):
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> wow, that ferrari is trying too hard. Should be embarrassed next to the F40.
> 
> I hope the engine work is a bit more respectful.

it looks like a piece of shit, I have a picture on my computer(I’m on my iPhone) I’ll post it when I get home.

> [@Vintage Lamborghini \> Vintage Mustang](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vintage-lamborghini-vintage-mustang/37793/6):
>
> I’ve been trying to sell my car for 3 months, its very strange that if someone comes with a deposit I dont jump on selling it right then and there? I never intended on selling the car originally so I painted it a custom one of a kind color that not alot of people are a fan of, when someone comes with cash or deposit I DONT let them leave. I drive the car every single day and twice a month to 47th street in Manhatten for business in THAT bmw, yea, MUCH is wrong with it lol…
> 
> I dont want to be ass an asshole or brag but lets put it this way… The $565 which is what I paid, NOT $449 is a joke to me, I made a youtube video about a year ago of me ripping up $1,500 and burning it when done just to prove that money isnt shit. The more money I spend the more money I make back, thats how I look at it. Youtube took that video down idk why or id post that for you…
> 
> I DO still have the car until tommorow or tuesday so if video taping me in my blue bmw YOU mis-tuned tokyo drifting it on the mean streets of Albany will prove that my BMW has absolutley no problems I’ll gladly do it for you.

they probably took it down because physically burning or defacing money is a federal offense.

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**Author:** ![tpetrolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@tpetrolo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpetrolo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/234 "2010-12-05T14:51:27Z")

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> [@10/28/07 - My Bubble Tea - 8 PM](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-28-07-my-bubble-tea-8-pm/37633/39):
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> on the phone with them now lol…

you never called me !!!

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/235 "2010-12-05T14:54:49Z")

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no ferrari parts list? ok

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/236 "2010-12-05T15:00:06Z")

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> [@Does a certified check clear immediately?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-a-certified-check-clear-immediately/37794/14):
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> you never called me !!!

Not you, autohaus …lol

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/237 "2010-12-05T15:00:25Z")

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> [@Does a certified check clear immediately?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-a-certified-check-clear-immediately/37794/14):
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> you never called me !!!

Don’t wait by the phone. You’re wasting your time with him.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/238 "2010-12-05T15:27:12Z")

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I was just trying to say that you (Tonino & Rob) mentioned tuning an automatic 540i & wanted you to know it would be difficult to dyno it. If Dave was keeping the car, I could see him wanting to get the car making a bit more power. I am sure Morgan could squeeze the car back in tomorrow or tuesday, but that’s not the case (so it seems). I think its good that you are willing to fly in & support your software.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/239 "2010-12-05T15:29:47Z")

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> [@Does a certified check clear immediately?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-a-certified-check-clear-immediately/37794/11):
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> I am repeating once again, that I was willing to come up there and figure out what the problem is and show to all of you that tuning has nothing to do with the issue and to be able to switch mod to stock and vice versa @ the dyno and show proof/picture/video dyno results, and of course i would prefer the one in question.  
> But as we all see the talking changes  
> This seems to me that he is just making a huge stink out of nothing in order to get reimbursed and keep the tuning while the car has problems, first if the car has problems, and “I know 540 problems very well” once there is a tuning installed it amplifies the problem and makes it worst.  
> BDW Trophy are given based on reason “concourse elegance” are not Sunday parking lot show  
> “The curb wing” are made for aerodynamic reason to keep car more stable on high speed not for look.

LOL, im starting to not like you… Like at all… I never said anything negative about your fucking god damn business damn it. Again, even AFTER the bullshit tune motherfucker. Im not making a stink about anything, I did exactly what the fucking Autohaus manager did with the bmw 335 that they did an f1 tune to, the only difference was, my tune results were NEGATIVE! My 540i ran and drove flawlessly and still does. Do you see me going crazy in order to get a refund? lol, I think I mentioned a refund once in this entire thread after at least 4 members suggested I request one and never again after that.

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning-claims-30-hp-increase-40-tq-increase-you-believe-it/255754/240 "2010-12-05T15:54:42Z")

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> [@Does a certified check clear immediately?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-a-certified-check-clear-immediately/37794/11):
>
> I am repeating once again, that I was willing to come up there and figure out what the problem is and show to all of you that tuning has nothing to do with the issue and to be able to switch mod to stock and vice versa @ the dyno and show proof/picture/video dyno results, and of course i would prefer the one in question.  
> But as we all see the talking changes  
> This seems to me that he is just making a huge stink out of nothing in order to get reimbursed and keep the tuning while the car has problems, first if the car has problems, and “I know 540 problems very well” once there is a tuning installed it amplifies the problem and makes it worst.  
> BDW Trophy are given based on reason “concourse elegance” are not Sunday parking lot show  
> “The curb wing” are made for aerodynamic reason to keep car more stable on high speed not for look.

i know what the curb wing things are for but lol you think its really necessary ? the car seems to sit around most of the time and goes on the dyno here and there…

> [@Does a certified check clear immediately?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-a-certified-check-clear-immediately/37794/13):
>
> they probably took it down because physically burning or defacing money is a federal offense.

yep you cant be burning money, thats no good… you should be putting that money back into the economy

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