# F1 Tuning **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [December 17, 2010, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055 "2010-12-17T10:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![6spd\_ek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/45deac/32.png) [@6spd\_ek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6spd_ek)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/21 "2010-12-18T07:17:43Z")
a/f was actually pretty good before & after… averaging 13.5 till 5000 & then coming down to 13.0 at redline the stock tune actually read just under 15.0 at 2000rpm while f1 was just under 14 @ the same rpm ---
**Author:** ![6spd\_ek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/45deac/32.png) [@6spd\_ek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6spd_ek)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/22 "2010-12-18T07:27:43Z")
delete :banghead ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/23 "2010-12-18T07:49:04Z")
nice post. Interesting results. I dont know shit about the import N/A gains. what does this car have in it for a motor? 5.4L V8?? ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/24 "2010-12-18T07:51:57Z")
I know damn well there’s people who have posted in this thread that have spent more money for less gains. ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/25 "2010-12-18T07:56:53Z")
> [@The last movie you've seen, and rate it.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-last-movie-youve-seen-and-rate-it/27425/296): > > nice post. Interesting results. I dont know shit about the import N/A gains. > > what does this car have in it for a motor? 5.4L V8?? not being a dick, this is srs post: car is a BMW 530i “5” means 5 series, a step up from the 3 series, includes 530, 535, M5, etc. “30” denotes the engine and trim in a way, meaning a 3.0L inline 6 ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/26 "2010-12-18T08:02:16Z")
> [@TMP 1/4 mile 11/3/07](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tmp-1-4-mile-11-3-07/38102/32): > > not being a dick, this is srs post: > > car is a BMW 530i > > “5” means 5 series, a step up from the 3 series, includes 530, 535, M5, etc. > > “30” denotes the engine and trim in a way, meaning a 3.0L inline 6 yah. I dont know SHIT about the import coding LOL. Reason I asked. At first I thought the gain posted for a “5.4L V8” was small, but now that its a inline 6 with no mods, it doesnt seem all that bad. ---
**Author:** ![1BIGMOFO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/d9b06d/32.png) [@1BIGMOFO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1BIGMOFO)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/27 "2010-12-18T08:21:23Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/38098/38): > > a/f was actually pretty good before & after… averaging 13.5 till 5000 & then coming down to 13.0 at redline > > the stock tune actually read just under 15.0 at 2000rpm while f1 was just under 14 @ the same rpm Thanks for the info. > [@The last movie you've seen, and rate it.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-last-movie-youve-seen-and-rate-it/27425/296): > > nice post. Interesting results. I dont know shit about the import N/A gains. > > what does this car have in it for a motor? 5.4L V8?? its a 3.0L 6 cyl > [@Cossey"](#): > > I know damn well there’s people who have posted in this thread that have spent more money for less gains. > [@TMP 1/4 mile 11/3/07](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tmp-1-4-mile-11-3-07/38102/32): > > not being a dick, this is srs post: > > car is a BMW 530i > > “5” means 5 series, a step up from the 3 series, includes 530, 535, M5, etc. > > “30” denotes the engine and trim in a way, meaning a 3.0L inline 6 Thanks for explaining that. You sir, are correct :thumbup > [@Innovative Tuning Subaru goes 6.68 1/8, 10.48 1/4](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-subaru-goes-6-68-1-8-10-48-1-4/38126/23): > > yah. I dont know SHIT about the import coding LOL. Reason I asked. At first I thought the gain posted for a “5.4L V8” was small, but now that its a inline 6 with no mods, it doesnt seem all that bad. Thanks man. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/28 "2010-12-18T08:57:51Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/38098/38): > > a/f was actually pretty good before & after… averaging 13.5 till 5000 & then coming down to 13.0 at redline > > the stock tune actually read just under 15.0 at 2000rpm while f1 was just under 14 @ the same rpm Thats pretty damn good. Shows how lean they are running the cars these days > [@Cossey"](#): > > I know damn well there’s people who have posted in this thread that have spent more money for less gains. I was just going to say this. ---
**Author:** ![LS\_WS.6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ls_ws.6/32/6563_2.png) [@LS\_WS.6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LS_WS.6)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/29 "2010-12-18T15:58:52Z")
> [@Cossey"](#): > > I know damn well there’s people who have posted in this thread that have spent more money for less gains. i agree, but on alot of factory cars power is hidden. ive seen 280 wheel ls1 cars(only using ls1 as an expamle becasue its what i look into) stock put on a dyno ahd have the stock tune cleaned up and make 300-315 wheel. i feel 500 is a waste for a “tune” when u need before and after pulls for results. to me its in the end cheaper to do mods and then tune once then to f1 tune then eventually do mods just have have to tune again. just my personal opinion ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/30 "2010-12-18T16:14:25Z")
Thats awesome you shared this info BigMoFo… I think its real world… a little dis-satisfying…but most things never live up to our hopes and dreams. $500 seems about right for said gains. That said…not every customer will do a before and after dyno to see if the tune was any good out of the box. so its a $700 adventure to be sure any gain has resulted… Which, in my experience, still isn’t completely unreasonable for the HP in the big picture. This shows how efficient BMWs are/arn’t out of the box, depending how you look at it. That’s still alot of money to most people, especially these days, but this is an expensive game. BTW, Do I understand you guys sold a Bimmer to an attorney that works for the State last week/ Or maybe it wasnt you … ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/31 "2010-12-18T16:19:22Z")
wow, so someone really DID fuck up my tune as it happened to you too lolol… I bet you felt like a scumbag the first time you tuned that 530 and got the same results as me 🙂 In your defense though, if the second flash results were consistant I’d say its 150% worth the money as I see people buying $3,000 exhausts and making 5whp maybe even less, $400-650 air filters that make 3whp and other stupid shit ass gains with alot more money spent… Theres really not much installation involved as well so the $400-500 spent on the tune is the true cost as you dont charge labor for the process. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/32 "2010-12-18T16:22:13Z")
[quote=Jammer;726765] That said…not every customer will do a before and after dyno to see if the tune was any good out of the box. quote] this. imo, you guys should buy your own dyno or make a deal with synapse and include this with the package seeing how your tunes may or may not benefit the first time your done. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/33 "2010-12-18T16:24:25Z")
> [@Beer Fest ?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/beer-fest/38063/3): > > i agree, but on alot of factory cars power is hidden. ive seen 280 wheel ls1 cars(only using ls1 as an expamle becasue its what i look into) stock put on a dyno ahd have the stock tune cleaned up and make 300-315 wheel. i feel 500 is a waste for a “tune” when u need before and after pulls for results. to me its in the end cheaper to do mods and then tune once then to f1 tune then eventually do mods just have have to tune again. just my personal opinion And all of what you said is totally irrelevant. This isn’t an LS1, it’s a 3.0L NA straight six. When a car is making ~200whp, I dunno why anyone would expect massive gains. Its an economy motor, not meant to tackle any sort of performance environment. ---
**Author:** ![LS\_WS.6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ls_ws.6/32/6563_2.png) [@LS\_WS.6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LS_WS.6)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/34 "2010-12-18T17:52:46Z")
> [@need some guidance with starting issues](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-guidance-with-starting-issues/36573/16): > > And all of what you said is totally irrelevant. This isn’t an LS1, it’s a 3.0L NA straight six. When a car is making ~200whp, I dunno why anyone would expect massive gains. Its an economy motor, not meant to tackle any sort of performance environment. thanks for pointing out the ls1 thing…even tho i already did in my own post:thumbup my point is EVERY car im sure has hidden power AS I STATED.am i saying cars had 2hp or 20hp hidden? NO, but im saying they do. I used LS1 as an example casue im not ones of these moes on here stating i know what every car in the world can do power wise, hense why i said ls1. thanks cossey. 500 bux for that result is a waste of money. Mod it, then tune it and be done. and pretty much every motor that comes from a car manufacturer in the last 10+ years is somehwat of an economy motor. if your not expecting massive gains why waste the ti me money and broken heart result? thanks for reading my opinion ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/35 "2010-12-18T18:29:23Z")
So how would you go about modding this motor with that budget? ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/36 "2010-12-18T18:58:34Z")
> [@Vovchandr"](#): > > So how would you go about modding this motor with that budget? I woulden’t as LSWS6 said, mod it then tune it and be done. Spending 500 dollars on a tune for an otherwise stock car seems like a waste, you would probably have more fun throwing that 500 dollars off a roof and watching people beat the shit out of eachother to get to it. Spending 500 dollars on a tune for a car with some sort of mods Intake/Exhaust/Advance timing/Cam etc something like that I could see, but for a bone stock car just seems like a waste on less it was getting much better fuel mileage and paid for itself in a reasonable ammount of time :lol This is all IMO, not that it means dick ---
**Author:** ![LS\_WS.6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ls_ws.6/32/6563_2.png) [@LS\_WS.6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LS_WS.6)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/37 "2010-12-18T19:05:28Z")
> [@Vovchandr"](#): > > So how would you go about modding this motor with that budget? save money do better mods then tune it for 500 or LESS? if you can save 500 for a tune, for 20wheel you can save more money over time. if all u can afford to do is a f1 tune, then dont wate your time and money. no1s adding in the barrowd dyno uses it seems either. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/38 "2010-12-18T19:10:27Z")
Also, whos to say that other people that are paying this money for their t00nz aren’t getting that bullshit botched 4rwhp tune you got the first time? If they work with people over it, just like LS above said, add in the dyno time and your spending way more than 500 ---
**Author:** ![LS\_WS.6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ls_ws.6/32/6563_2.png) [@LS\_WS.6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LS_WS.6)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/39 "2010-12-18T19:13:54Z")
> [@how do i network my macbook with my PC?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-i-network-my-macbook-with-my-pc/38158/6): > > Also, whos to say that other people that are paying this money for their t00nz aren’t getting that bullshit botched 4rwhp tune you got the first time? > > If they work with people over it, just like LS above said, add in the dyno time and your spending way more than 500 thank you for seeing where i am coming from! im not just talking about ls1 cars like cossey thought i was. i was simply using the cars i knida know about as an example seeing as me using a bmw as and example is totally irrelevant since i dont own 1 nor care to study specs about themmmm ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055/40 "2010-12-18T19:34:08Z")
> [@FS/FT: \*SOLD 93 Civic Si/LS SOLD\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-ft-sold-93-civic-si-ls-sold/34548/79): > > thank you for seeing where i am coming from! im not just talking about ls1 cars like cossey thought i was. i was simply using the cars i knida know about as an example seeing as me using a bmw as and example is totally irrelevant since i dont own 1 nor care to study specs about themmmm For the point you were making it would not have mattered if you were talking about a suzuki swift or a bugatti veyron [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-tuning/256055.md?page=3)