# F1 = turds **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 20, 2005, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070 "2005-06-20T11:25:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/21 "2005-06-21T05:50:30Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > f1 \> nascar by a TON!!! agreed ---
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/22 "2005-06-21T07:54:28Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > Id rather watch 3 open wheel cars race, than watch 50 rednecks in chevy monte carlos race in NASCAR. 🤣 fo sho ---
**Author:** ![EricS4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@EricS4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EricS4)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/23 "2005-06-21T10:21:26Z")
I actually don’t mind NASCAR. Hell there are about as many lead changes in one NECKCAR race as there are in an entire F1 season. I like F1 for the cars and the atmoshpere but I can do without all the tight ass snobs involved in the sport. Including most of the drivers. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/24 "2005-06-21T10:33:02Z")
i like watching F1 the best, but i’ve been following Grand American Road Racing Association (Grand-Am CUp Series) its been very ygood racing…this past weekends watiens glenn race was entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/25 "2005-06-21T14:39:21Z")
cliffs on what the fuck happened? ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/26 "2005-06-22T05:22:52Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > cliffs on what the fuck happened? seven teams pulled their 14 drivers just before the start of the F1 race @ indy cause their Michelin tires couldn’t hold up under the speeds the track was producing. Michelin wanted FIA, to make an exception to the rule by letting the teams change tires but this is agianst the new rule of cars must qualify and race on the same set…the other options was to add a chicane to slow speeds before the turn that was causing the problem. FIA said no… saying why should the teams with the equipment that can handle it have to suffer? I heard they could have raced, but it would have had to be @ speeds that were safe for those cars & that wouldn’t have been quick enough to compete so they decided not to race. in the end only 3 teams (6 drivers) raced Ferrari, Jordan & Minardi. ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/27 "2005-06-22T18:14:10Z")
anyone ever think that it would be cool to watch a race downtown, that when through some of the city, then across bridges to the nothside then back over to the city. ---
**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/28 "2005-06-23T05:27:14Z")
> [@grandamld9](#): > > anyone ever think that it would be cool to watch a race downtown, that when through some of the city, then across bridges to the nothside then back over to the city. i’d definatley pay to see that. id love to see racing through the city. ---
**Author:** ![kmurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c57346/32.png) [@kmurph](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kmurph)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/29 "2005-06-23T06:13:27Z")
> [@EricS4](#): > > I actually don’t mind NASCAR. Hell there are about as many lead changes in one NECKCAR race as there are in an entire F1 season. I like F1 for the cars and the atmoshpere but I can do without all the tight ass snobs involved in the sport. Including most of the drivers. Yeah…I’m starting to like NASCAR more and more…I went to a few Daytona 500s recently and all of the races are exciting (truck, IROC, Busch, etc)…so much more passing and strategy. I’m still an open wheel fan at heart though. I love technology involved and there’s nothing like hearing a F1 car fly by at 19K+ rpms!!! I went to the first two USGPs at Indy and loved them both. I really hope F1 continues to be in the U.S. somewhere for years to come. It’s nice having it at Indy but I wouldn’t mind seeing it at someplace like the Glen either…the Indy track is too tight in some places for F1 cars, IMO. With regards to this past USGP, I think there was a lot more going on behind the scenes which led to the Michelin Teams pulling out…there are a lot of Teams/manufacturers that not happy with the FIA and Max Mosley…there has been talk of many teams pulling out of F1 and starting a new open wheel series by 2008…just like what happened to Indy cars in the late 90s …I hope it doesn’t happen. The blame can be thrown at several people or organizations but there really should of been a solution for the fans sake…fans are what make the sport and too many people involved with F1 only think about themselves and nothing else which is only good to a certain point…NASCAR would of found a way to race. [Team Minardi’s account of what happened](http://www.minardi.it/press/dettaglio.asp?IDComunicato=1875&LN=UK&IDGara=&IDComunicatiTipo=) Keep in mind that Minardi chief, Paul Stoddart has had a pretty rocky relationship with the FIA in recent years which, I’m sure, reflects in the overall tone of the article… ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2005, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070/30 "2005-06-23T06:34:48Z")
> [@kmurph](#): > > Yeah…I’m starting to like NASCAR more and more…I went to a few Daytona 500s recently and all of the races are exciting (truck, IROC, Busch, etc)…so much more passing and strategy. I’m still an open wheel fan at heart though. I love technology involved and there’s nothing like hearting a F1 car fly by at 19K+ rpms!!! I went to the first two USGPs at Indy and loved them both. I really hope F1 continues to be in the U.S. somewhere for years to come. It’s nice having it at Indy but I wouldn’t mind seeing it at someplace like the Glen either…the Indy track is too tight in some places for F1 cars, IMO. > > With regards to this past USGP, I think there was a lot more going on behind the scenes which led to the Michelin Teams pulling out…there are a lot of Teams/manufacturers that not happy with the FIA and Max Mosley…there has been talk of many teams pulling out of F1 and starting a new open wheel series by 2008…just like what happened to Indy cars in the late 90s …I hope it doesn’t happen. > > The blame can be thrown at several people or organizations but there really should of been a solution for the fans sake…fans are what make the sport and too many people involved with F1 only think about themselves and nothing else which is only good to a certain point…NASCAR would of found a way to race. > > [Team Minardi’s account of what happened](http://www.minardi.it/press/dettaglio.asp?IDComunicato=1875&LN=UK&IDGara=&IDComunicatiTipo=) > > Keep in mind that Minardi chief, Paul Stoddart has had a pretty rocky relationship with the FIA in recent years which, I’m sure, reflects in the overall tone of the article… that was a pretty good article. I would like to hear the other side and what exactly happenend. I have never followed this racing but this is pretty interesting. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f1-turds/175070.md?page=1)