# Fabricators/Racers chime in on this **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [April 29, 2009, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858 "2009-04-29T08:43:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/21 "2009-04-30T08:58:31Z")
Like this ![http://www.tvacres.com/images/dodge_general2.jpg](http://www.tvacres.com/images/dodge_general2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff_k/32/6431_2.png) [@Jeff\_K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff_K)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/22 "2009-04-30T09:29:08Z")
> [@FS: 2000 Audi A6](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2000-audi-a6/17653/2): > > How the fuck do you get into the car with door bars that go all the ay up to the window? The same way we all get in, pull off the steering wheel and slide your ass in. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/23 "2009-04-30T10:06:35Z")
+1. With great effort. ---
**Author:** ![SRS\_BZNS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/srs_bzns/32/6375_2.png) [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/24 "2009-04-30T12:20:35Z")
WIth door bars like that you might as welll just weld your doors shut and dukes of hazzard it all the time ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/25 "2009-04-30T12:34:43Z")
Oh god. This means that the vehicle in my sig could be made out of CF tubing sometime to be even lighter :ohnoes ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/26 "2009-04-30T12:37:19Z")
> [@F.S.: Gaming rig... testing waters](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-s-gaming-rig-testing-waters/17618/13): > > Oh god. > > This means that the vehicle in my sig could be made out of CF tubing sometime to be even lighter :ohnoes actually…YES!:ahh ---
**Author:** ![SRS\_BZNS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/srs_bzns/32/6375_2.png) [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/27 "2009-04-30T13:04:04Z")
now the truly amazing feat would be carbon fiber darth vader ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/28 "2009-04-30T14:02:42Z")
> [@So uhh... Monday evenings? Ver. 2.01](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-uhh-monday-evenings-ver-2-01/17654/16): > > I agree with Adam 100%. > > My question is… > > HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET IT IN THE CAR??? > > It has to go in as one piece… You cut the roof of the car off, and install it that way. No joke. Thats what they do with all of the 25.2/25.5 Cert drag cages. Cut off the roof, get it inspected, throw the roof back on. PITA, but it gets the job done. ---
**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/29 "2009-04-30T14:11:02Z")
fuck that. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/30 "2009-04-30T14:18:45Z")
> [@Any one know a towtruck?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-one-know-a-towtruck/17659/11): > > You cut the roof of the car off, and install it that way. No joke. Thats what they do with all of the 25.2/25.5 Cert drag cages. Cut off the roof, get it inspected, throw the roof back on. PITA, but it gets the job done. I would love to see the labor estimate on that install. Considering the car will need a new paint job after it’s all said and done as well. ---
**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/31 "2009-04-30T14:46:02Z")
> [@Pics of the STi](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pics-of-the-sti/17646/20): > > I would love to see the labor estimate on that install. > > Considering the car will need a new paint job after it’s all said and done as well. nah, just paint the pillars and blend it ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/32 "2009-04-30T14:55:09Z")
> [@Pics of the STi](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pics-of-the-sti/17646/20): > > I would love to see the labor estimate on that install. > > Considering the car will need a new paint job after it’s all said and done as well. Typically when youre building a car of that caliber the whole thing is getting done anyways. Start with the chassis setup/cage, and move to fab of motor/trans, then disassembled and sent to paint. Aint cheap by ANY means lol. I cant wait, 3-4 years ill be doin that! ---
**Author:** ![Fn\_Skanks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fn_skanks/32/6308_2.png) [@Fn\_Skanks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fn_Skanks)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/33 "2009-05-04T17:22:28Z")
> [@HYBRID CONNECTION INTEGRA FINISHES 2 AT HOLLAND SPEEDWAY](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hybrid-connection-integra-finishes-2-at-holland-speedway/16555/24): > > Why would you want something so ludicrous? Cars with cages are made to be destroyed…THAT is not made to be destroyed…It’s made to look good…steel is your best friend in a serious rollover or tire wall impact…simple and plain. +1 exactly… and what adam said is spot on as well. it will absorb the impact, and literally shatter. that’s what c.f. does from a hit. if its tuv and fia approved, it is definitely serious though. ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/34 "2009-05-04T17:49:49Z")
> [@Need help diagnosing a problem.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-diagnosing-a-problem/17599/6): > > That cage must have MASSIVe amounts of R&D put into it if it passes FIA certification. > > Here’s my input…cages are designed to ABSORD the impact by deformation and energy transferral. Cages give and bend in an impact to reduce the shock load and keep the drivers safe. Good cages are designed to direct the energy of an impact around the occupants. > > CF is different. In an impact carbon composite crash structures absorb and dissipate crash energy by self destrucing. Prime example are the nose cones of F1 cars. The composites literally blow apart in a controlled manner, dissipating the energy of the impact as it goes. this cage would have to do the same in one manner or another. > > Oakley doesn’t screw around, they do exhorbant amounts of research in their products and I’m sure that this part has just that, but at a HUGE price. > **[http://start.fedoraproject.org/](http://start.fedoraproject.org/)** > > second point I’ll make on this…I typically build most cages from DOM. The reason being is that DOM, unlike chromoly or CF in this case, can be repaired. In the event of a slight impact, say to the door bars, you can cut/form, bend and repair the cage with new DOM. Chromoly you can’t due to the nature of the material and how it transfers energy and often fracture during an impact. CF…forget it. If you do a small shot to the car in the same manner as above, the cage would have to be completely thrown out. The complete structural integrity of the cage is compromised and 99% of it wouldn’t be visible. In the event of a larger impact, that compromised cage could become projectiles or worse, collapse and turn you into a human shish kabob. > > so…point blank if you have the stupid money to spend on such a cage go for it, but be prepared to toss it away in even a small fender bender… Just curious why you linked this in here? On a side note off topic, linux is awesome and Fedora is on of my fav distros. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/35 "2009-05-04T21:18:06Z")
> [@NYspeed pimps needed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-pimps-needed/17782/29): > > Just curious why you linked this in here? On a side note off topic, linux is awesome and Fedora is on of my fav distros. Didn’t do it intentionally. I must have hit something that worked in the fedora url(that’s the home page for the browser too)??? ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/36 "2009-05-04T21:23:21Z")
how much less does this thing weigh than a “regular” cage? ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/37 "2009-05-04T21:25:57Z")
> [@XM and sirius ?'s](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xm-and-sirius-s/17658/2): > > Only double wrap if you see things crawling. :rofl :rofl :rofl ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/38 "2009-05-04T21:28:19Z")
condoms dont protect against everything Benny, especially cuz if you wear 2 that causes friction and you are more likely to tear it, so congradulations, you have aids. ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/39 "2009-05-04T23:20:45Z")
> [@When following up on an Application, What do you say?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/when-following-up-on-an-application-what-do-you-say/17820/10): > > Didn’t do it intentionally. I must have hit something that worked in the fedora url(that’s the home page for the browser too)??? You running fedora? ---
**Author:** ![skiboard06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@skiboard06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skiboard06)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858/40 "2009-05-05T07:04:51Z")
Any close up shots of the base plates? I have a feeling Mike is right and the base plates on this thing are a prime failure point. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fabricators-racers-chime-in-on-this/243858.md?page=3)