# Failvis: Before and After

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**Created:** [August 22, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/failvis-before-and-after/246288 "2009-08-22T18:53:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/failvis-before-and-after/246288/39 "2009-08-23T10:08:56Z")

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> [@Hold Em Poker / Tournies / Home Games](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hold-em-poker-tournies-home-games/19790/72):
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> do tell more, i know i grabbed the front charred listener plate the night of the fire, i let some people see it and dont remember what happened after that.

i remember yanking it off. half the bumper came with it :lol

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