# Farewell to Flip up lights.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [November 14, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353 "2009-11-14T08:05:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/1 "2009-11-14T08:05:36Z")

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There are no more flip up light cars in production as the last ones were the C5 vette and the Lotus Esprit.

Doesn’t look like any more will ever be in production, as they were created in a day when the headlights had to be oblong, boxy and ugly to they created a method to hide them. Now with headlights being in crazy shapes and part of modern designs, they won’t go nowhere, especially with the creation of LED headlights.

The irony all was that while in the daytime the slant nose and hidden lights would make the car look clean and attract attention the illusion would be ruined and the wrong kind of attention would be attracted when there was any kind of fog or condensation that would require you to turn the lights on, as the headlights in use ruin the lines of the car.

So to give respect to a very innovative and peculiar design we’re giving them an official farewell by showcasing a few highlights.

Miata

 ![http://www.stanceiseverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/miata10.jpg](http://www.stanceiseverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/miata10.jpg)

Vette’s for a number of decades  
 ![http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/227/3301/25566650025_large.jpg](http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/227/3301/25566650025_large.jpg)

Ferrari had a long history with the lights because it allowed them to have a very low nose

F40  
 ![http://www.ugo.com/lifestyle/ferrari-f40/images/entries/ferrari-f40-4.jpg](http://www.ugo.com/lifestyle/ferrari-f40/images/entries/ferrari-f40-4.jpg)

Daytona  
 ![http://www.khulsey.com/stockphotography/ferrari-365-gtb4-daytona-1972.jpeg](http://www.khulsey.com/stockphotography/ferrari-365-gtb4-daytona-1972.jpeg)

Imports include many Nissans, Toyotas and Hondas, but the highlight is of course the Acura NSX  
 ![http://lasvegasnevadaexoticcarrentals.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/acura-nsx.jpg](http://lasvegasnevadaexoticcarrentals.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/acura-nsx.jpg)

Lotus Esprit  
 ![http://image.motortrend.com/f/24773350+w750/2002-lotus-espirit-front-three-quarters-view.jpg](http://image.motortrend.com/f/24773350+w750/2002-lotus-espirit-front-three-quarters-view.jpg)

BMW had their run with the 8  
 ![http://www.arabaresimleri1.com/data/media/64/BMW_8_Series-Resimleri.jpg](http://www.arabaresimleri1.com/data/media/64/BMW_8_Series-Resimleri.jpg)

And of course the the supercar that _defined_ what supercar is.

Lamborghini Countach

 ![http://www.desktopcar.net/wallpaper/28256-2/lambo_countach_07.jpg](http://www.desktopcar.net/wallpaper/28256-2/lambo_countach_07.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/2 "2009-11-14T09:39:35Z")

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Small note: Countach did not define what a supercar is at all. I believe we can thank the 60’s for that for giving us the Ferrari’s and the GT40’s.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/3 "2009-11-14T09:58:58Z")

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> [@Akron Fire Co. Car Raffle](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/akron-fire-co-car-raffle/25805/4):
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> Small note: Countach did not define what a supercar is at all. I believe we can thank the 60’s for that for giving us the Ferrari’s and the GT40’s.

Supercar for being as ridiculous as it is.

Being more than just a regular car with great performance, but looking like something that just came out of a cartoon.

IE a car you expect to see on a poster on a wall.

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**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/4 "2009-11-14T13:51:48Z")

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My contribution, LOL.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/5 "2009-11-14T15:39:43Z")

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> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/1423):
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> My contribution, LOL.
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTrSM\_m8iyk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTrSM_m8iyk)

Hahah no f’n way! I’ve never even thought about a bike having one hahaha

great find, definitely will go in.

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**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/6 "2009-11-14T17:10:35Z")

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> [@My Goulash Is Awesome.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-goulash-is-awesome/25822/2):
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> Hahah no f’n way! I’ve never even thought about a bike having one hahaha
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> great find, definitely will go in.

I built this bike’s model kit when I was a kid…:tongue

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/7 "2009-11-14T20:15:20Z")

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> [@where to intern](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-to-intern/25771/19):
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> Supercar for being as ridiculous as it is.
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> Being more than just a regular car with great performance, but looking like something that just came out of a cartoon.
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> IE a car you expect to see on a poster on a wall.

And none of what you said defines a supercar. Exotic, yes. Supercar, most certainly not.

Dont’ forget: FD3S, FC3S, MA70, SW20, the other MR2 for which I dunno the chassis number, old muscle cars like the Daytona, Superbird, TA, etc… and quite a few other semi-iconic cars.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/8 "2009-11-14T20:52:52Z")

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Doubt I’d list them all, just top 10 and the bike.

If you have any ideas on your own list feel free to add some contenders.

As far as the term

During the late 20th century, the term Supercar was used to describe “a very expensive, fast or powerful car with a centrally located engine”,[8] and stated in more general terms: “it must be very fast, with sporting handling to match”, “it should be sleek and eye-catching” and its price should be “one in a rarefied atmosphere of its own”

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/9 "2009-11-14T20:59:48Z")

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> [@951 winter progress](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/260):
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> During the late 20th century, the term Supercar was used to describe “a very expensive, fast or powerful car with a centrally located engine”,[8] and stated in more general terms: “it must be very fast, with sporting handling to match”, “it should be sleek and eye-catching” and its price should be “one in a rarefied atmosphere of its own”

Is that what Wiki told you?

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/10 "2009-11-15T06:26:22Z")

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> [@Who's going to be cruising Wed evening??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-going-to-be-cruising-wed-evening/25828/4):
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> Is that what Wiki told you?

Yessir, I thought the reference was obvious enough without needing a workcited.

The problem is that there is a _supercar,_ an _exotic car,_ and a _sports car._

In general the consensus is if a car has any bone it it to make your commute easier, or gives weight advantages to safety features that are not required by law like extra airbags, or rear seats.

They have to handle well, go fast and look like a spaceship on exterior and interior. They cannot resemble the average car. They also have to have a price similar to a space shuttle. Generally they are mid engine, RWD.

There are also Hypercars which is a relatively new term.

So a bentley is an exotic, a Viper ACR is a sports car and a Gallardo, whether I like to admit it or not, is a super car.

The countach back in the day, looked like a spaceship, cost out this world and performed to the benchpark. It is the car that 10 year olds will refer to as a supercar when you put it next to any other car of the age or before.

But we can agree to disagree.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/11 "2009-11-15T09:10:03Z")

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Agree to disagree.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/farewell-to-flip-up-lights/248353/12 "2009-11-15T19:41:29Z")

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i love flip lights.

1Ga DSM!!
