# Fast cam swapts in FWD GMs
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [October 6, 2006, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540 "2006-10-06T12:05:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/1 "2006-10-06T12:05:35Z")
Its pretty common to do in car cam swapts in 3800 GM’s. When GM, hlems, all data, says you have to remove the engine. By just lowering the passanger side of the engine cradle and few inches. You get room to slide the cam out thu the pasanger wheel well. Its baisic, even with jackstands and a floor jack. Did one in RIT UC parking lot last summer.
Someone finally did “It” on there GTP. LOL
🤣
Still not a fast and easy as LS1 Fbodies. God dont like us as much I guess.
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### Author:  [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/2 "2006-10-06T12:07:34Z")
:lol:
If it works, it works. I’d put a rubber body plug in there.
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### Author:  [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/3 "2006-10-06T12:18:54Z")
o man, I’d still rather drop the cradle
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/4 "2006-10-06T13:30:46Z")
People would do that all the time time with GM 2.8 and 3.1 liter engines. It is only a small hole
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/5 "2006-10-06T13:46:00Z")
How much is a cam for the 3800 anyway
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/6 "2006-10-06T16:58:55Z")
why not right? you can always weld the patch back in, or leave it. it’s not like you drilled through the frame or anything. a few inches lower and I would have been worried.
it would have sucked if he measured wrong :0
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/7 "2006-10-06T18:03:50Z")
That is pretty funny, but its a lot easier than dropping the cradle.
> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> How much is a cam for the 3800 anyway
[http://zzperformance.com/grand\_prix/products.php?id=104&PHPSESSID=3209983f4b38b6e7ad6c65adfc4b5b34](http://zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products.php?id=104&PHPSESSID=3209983f4b38b6e7ad6c65adfc4b5b34)
From $299.99 up tp $459.99
Im sure you can get them from different places as well.
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### Author:  [@98FREAKGTP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98FREAKGTP)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/8 "2006-10-06T18:27:30Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> How much is a cam for the 3800 anyway
Anywhere from 200-350 ISH. . .Sorry I had to make the ISH bigger to kind of emphasez that its around there.
It isn’t shit to drop the craddle. . .I will admit, I did think about slammin a hole in the side of my car as well. But dropping the craddle is the way to go.
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### Author:  [@98FREAKGTP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98FREAKGTP)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/9 "2006-10-06T18:29:06Z")
> [@19Cutlass94](#):
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> . . . From $299.99 up tp $459.99
I guess I was way off. I only paid $230 for mine so I don’t care.
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### Author:  [@ChevyChase](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ChevyChase)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/10 "2006-10-06T19:52:18Z")
ITS THAT EASY??? OMG lol beretta cam swap!
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### Author:  [@13005TEDGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/13005TEDGP)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/11 "2006-10-06T21:49:56Z")
The balancer would be loads of fun to get out of the way without the cradle dropped.