# Fast Motorsports FRC simple combo great results

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [December 23, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314 "2009-12-23T19:55:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![kdubs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kdubs/32/6562_2.png) [@kdubs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kdubs)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/1 "2009-12-23T19:55:51Z")

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Brandon from Fast Motorsports just got done tuning a C5 tonight on the dyno and had results of 439.90 hp/ 410.10 trq

![http://shift518.gom-host.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1767&d=1261626941](http://shift518.gom-host.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1767&d=1261626941)

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/2 "2009-12-23T19:58:25Z")

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you love this guy huh?

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**Author:** ![kdubs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kdubs/32/6562_2.png) [@kdubs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kdubs)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/3 "2009-12-23T20:00:21Z")

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just does great work…

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/4 "2009-12-23T20:01:07Z")

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> [@Veesta](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/veesta/27654/5):
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> Brandon from Fast Motorsports just got done tuning a C5 tonight on the dyno and had results of 439.90 hp/ 410.10 trq

what were mods on said C5?

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**Author:** ![d\_gage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_gage/32/6321_2.png) [@d\_gage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d_gage)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/5 "2009-12-23T20:01:40Z")

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mod list?

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**Author:** ![kdubs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kdubs/32/6562_2.png) [@kdubs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kdubs)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/6 "2009-12-23T20:01:50Z")

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he will be posting in a lil bit is driving back from tuning it right now…

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**Author:** ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/7 "2009-12-23T20:02:22Z")

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nice power, but no more than any other reputable tuner/ builder could do w/ a healthy head/cam package

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**Author:** ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/8 "2009-12-23T20:03:36Z")

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> [@My turn to rub it in...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-turn-to-rub-it-in/27659/10):
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> mod list?

heads,cam, headers, intake, tune, maybe ported tb/intake that will net those kind of power levels

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**Author:** ![262](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/439d5e/32.png) [@262](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/262)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/9 "2009-12-23T20:26:46Z")

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2000 FRC

Mod list and why I wanted this posted

Halltech CAI  
Stock maf unported still screened  
Fast 90 intake  
LS2 TB unported  
243 casting heads  
220/220 585 585 114  
Stock bottom end  
1 3/4" headers  
3" collectors  
2 1-2" dual  
Corsa sport mufflers  
Spec stg3 clutch not no lightweight deal here  
TR55 plugs  
MSD wires

Afr of 12.65 max timing of 24 degrees

With such a “small” cam I wasnt expecting these types of numbers from such a mild combo

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**Author:** ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/10 "2009-12-23T20:31:24Z")

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as you know, you dont always need a HUGE cam to make power. My c6z w/ a very small cam made more power than all the big cam qm 600 cars etc. 556rwhp set up is everything.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/11 "2009-12-23T20:34:18Z")

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This may be the first time in internet history that there has hever been a FEMALE nut-swinger…

Congrats!?

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**Author:** ![kdubs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kdubs/32/6562_2.png) [@kdubs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kdubs)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/12 "2009-12-23T20:35:50Z")

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> [@\*\*\*Come play GTR2 \*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/come-play-gtr2/24079/487):
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> This may be the first time in internet history that there has hever been a FEMALE nut-swinger…
> 
> Congrats!?

haha… thanks Travis… u ass… :hug

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/13 "2009-12-23T20:35:55Z")

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happy dyno? it is a dynojet… just curious…

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/14 "2009-12-23T20:37:55Z")

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idk? seems like exactly what i speculated, a good set of heads, a cam that works, a good intake manifold, headers and an ls engine, 440 is very doable!

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/15 "2009-12-23T20:44:36Z")

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nice results.

what are the CC’s on those ported 243’s?

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/16 "2009-12-23T20:45:52Z")

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> [@Need hotel suggestions near the ACC.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-hotel-suggestions-near-the-acc/27646/8):
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> 2000 FRC
> 
> Mod list and why I wanted this posted
> 
> Halltech CAI  
> Stock maf unported still screened  
> Fast 90 intake  
> LS2 TB unported  
> 243 casting heads  
> 220/220 585 585 114  
> Stock bottom end  
> 1 3/4" headers  
> 3" collectors  
> 2 1-2" dual  
> Corsa sport mufflers  
> Spec stg3 clutch not no lightweight deal here  
> TR55 plugs  
> MSD wires
> 
> Afr of 12.65 max timing of 24 degrees
> 
> With such a “small” cam I wasnt expecting these types of numbers from such a mild combo

do you think leaning it out to ~12.9/13.0 afr would’ve yielded some more gains? (worthwhile gains that wouldnt sacrifice safety)

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/17 "2009-12-23T20:46:27Z")

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> [@Finally made my way over here...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-made-my-way-over-here/27664/13):
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> nice results.
> 
> what are the CC’s on those ported 243’s?

he never said they were ported. 😉

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/18 "2009-12-23T20:52:57Z")

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> [@Finally made my way over here...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-made-my-way-over-here/27664/14):
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> he never said they were ported. 😉

he said stock Casting…not stock heads

That means they are stock 243 bodies, but have some port work done 😉

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/19 "2009-12-23T20:55:24Z")

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> [@Veesta](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/veesta/27654/13):
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> he said stock Casting…not stock heads
> 
> That means they are stock 243 bodies, but have some port work done 😉

not necessarily… id like to let 262 clarify if the heads were ported or not…

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**Author:** ![262](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/439d5e/32.png) [@262](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/262)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-frc-simple-combo-great-results/249314/20 "2009-12-23T20:55:29Z")

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Dynojet yes as seen in the background banner.

I experimented with slightly leaner and slightly richer AFR’s and this is what made the most power. Made over 25 pulls tonight after spending 4 hours dialing the car in from scratch. There isnt a spot in that fuel map I did not touch. Was doing some gas consumption testing as well.

AS CAST 243!!! No milling no porting just a set of patriot gold valve springs.

I have noticed our shitty “93” out here with 10-15% ethanol needs the slightly richer mix to make power now. In the past I have put literally 1 gallon of 100 in 8-9 gallons of pump gas but I did not do any tricks I wanted real results. I just use the good octane gas to counter affect the ethanol crap.

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