# FAST motorsports in Albany, NY (Attn: All LS vehicles)

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [December 13, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044 "2009-12-13T17:52:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/101 "2009-12-17T21:04:29Z")

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> [@WNY SOLO Novice school](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-solo-novice-school/26610/103):
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> you always have to keep in mind that rlms is turning into premodonna’s. Howard only wants high end shit

Nothing wrong w/ that, it’s nice working on brand new shit, and not having people hagle over 50 bux. Howard is in a position where he doesnt need to work on junk, take a look at the parking lot, it’s filled w/ 5-7 new ss camaros that are being sold for between 65-85k all over the country and c6 vettes at any given time. I think tonight was the first time i got dirty in 3 months, and thats only cause we took a motor out of a c5!

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/102 "2009-12-18T07:55:45Z")

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never said there was, and i dont blame him for doing the big stuff, thats where the money is at. But that leaves people like me no where to go, im sure howard doesnt want my chalkboard looking car on his dyno haha

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/103 "2009-12-18T08:00:33Z")

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chalkboard FTW!

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/104 "2009-12-18T10:09:06Z")

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I’m flying my car out to Japan for the ultimate tune.

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**Author:** ![Dread](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dread/32/6544_2.png) [@Dread](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dread)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/105 "2009-12-18T10:20:32Z")

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> [@Team \[DRIFT\] Practice Session Video](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/team-drift-practice-session-video/27308/67):
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> exactly! For all the haters open up a GM hightech mag. or call some of the other big name LS tuners around the country, they will all speak very highly of Howards shop/ ability. Actually 3 weeks ago there were ALOT of the “big name guys” at RLMS for a tuning school.

Im with you on this one, no offense to Fast or anybody but I dont see why some of you wouldnt want to support a local business.

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**Author:** ![262](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/439d5e/32.png) [@262](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/262)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/106 "2009-12-18T10:37:27Z")

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> [@new to me](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-to-me/27344/14):
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> can ya do ltx vehicles or no ?

That is a complicated answer in my eyes. I have tuned ltx vehicles but have stopped tuning the ltx computer.  
[http://www.eficonnection.com/24x/default.htm](http://www.eficonnection.com/24x/default.htm)  
Since this kit came out to retro fit the ls computer onto the lt platform I have always reccomending swapping to it then I will tune from there. I fully understand its an slight investment but the 0411 pcm is miles ahead of the lt computer and expands the horizon of what you can do with your engine and gives you much better control over your transmission as well. The DIY kits arent that expensive and the swap truly isnt that bad. Just sucks that GM IMO skimpped on the lt computer compared to the '749 in the syty and then the 0411 in the LS platform

> [@Team \[DRIFT\] Practice Session Video](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/team-drift-practice-session-video/27308/67):
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> Actually 3 weeks ago there were ALOT of the “big name guys” at RLMS for a tuning school.

I was on the list to goto that school since Adam at popsracing got me in as a favor. Had a business trip planned already so I have to wait for the next one. I have talked to Greg banish a few times before and he is a very smart man. Just wanted to take the class to confirm my practices especially with the late model virtual VE tables and the scaling when hitting injector flow limits or creating more room in the maf and load tables on high HP or forced inducted applications

> [@Coffee at home??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/coffee-at-home/25476/35):
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> To each his own. I can see where Katie is coming from since this guy has tuned a ton of trailblazers

A ton of LS platforms just recently more TBSS’s than anything else since they are the popular thing.

> [@1evilzr1"](#):
>
> tuning is tuning, weather a lambo or a honda! trailblazer or any other ls vehicle in the world…

Very intelligent post and yes that holds 99% true. the priciples are the same just implementing changes from platform to platform

> [@Official 24 Thread - 2007](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-24-thread-2007/22722/271):
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> Every car has different aspects to tuning that you have to work with

I agree as well. I.E. the tbss loads the motor harder than a vette so it takes less timing to get to MBT

> [@What happens when colorblind people mod cars](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-happens-when-colorblind-people-mod-cars/27399/20):
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> me and Brandon had a pretty extensive convo for a good half hour on the phone the other night about tuning my car and shit…needless to say I was impressed and he really knows what hes talking about when it comes to Tuning LSx cars with HP Tuners.
> 
> I sent him my current tune and he looked the whole thing over and compared it to a stock 01 LS1 tune and went over every single thing that needs to be tuned on my car…apparently the only thing that is tuned on my car is WOT AFR’s and a bumped up idle…

Yes your car was a classic case of “dyno tune” otherwise known as PE raping. only major changes were injector flow rate, idle timing and WOT commanded fueling. The maf and ve were BONE STOCK!!! and it was commanding around 9.7:1 to get your 12.5ish afr at wot. I know these are details you and I talked about but details I wanted everyone to know.

Also, I have been lacking on posting results since I know guys will want pictures of the car or sometimes timeslips. I have no problem posting combo’s and results but in the respect that some of my guys still grudge race around here pics will not be posted.

F-body  
afr 205 headed  
custom spec cam by me  
347 CI  
stock crank  
stock rods  
forged pistons  
525hp/500ft-lbs  
6speed car through a 12bolt  
3850lbs raceweight and still traps upper 130’s

F-body  
“SBE” car  
custom cam  
dart heads  
carb mani  
4150 style TB  
th400  
12bolt  
spray (and lots of it)  
3300 race weight has seen the 9.1x range many many times

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/107 "2009-12-18T10:44:37Z")

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> [@The last movie you've seen, and rate it.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-last-movie-youve-seen-and-rate-it/27425/33):
>
> That is a complicated answer in my eyes. I have tuned ltx vehicles but have stopped tuning the ltx computer.  
> [http://www.eficonnection.com/24x/default.htm](http://www.eficonnection.com/24x/default.htm)  
> Since this kit came out to retro fit the ls computer onto the lt platform I have always reccomending swapping to it then I will tune from there. I fully understand its an slight investment but the 0411 pcm is miles ahead of the lt computer and expands the horizon of what you can do with your engine and gives you much better control over your transmission as well. The DIY kits arent that expensive and the swap truly isnt that bad. Just sucks that GM IMO skimpped on the lt computer compared to the '749 in the syty and then the 0411 in the LS platform
> 
> I was on the list to goto that school since Adam at popsracing got me in as a favor. Had a business trip planned already so I have to wait for the next one. I have talked to Greg banish a few times before and he is a very smart man. Just wanted to take the class to confirm my practices especially with the late model virtual VE tables and the scaling when hitting injector flow limits or creating more room in the maf and load tables on high HP or forced inducted applications
> 
> A ton of LS platforms just recently more TBSS’s than anything else since they are the popular thing.
> 
> Very intelligent post and yes that holds 99% true. the priciples are the same just implementing changes from platform to platform
> 
> I agree as well. I.E. the tbss loads the motor harder than a vette so it takes less timing to get to MBT
> 
> Yes your car was a classic case of “dyno tune” otherwise known as PE raping. only major changes were injector flow rate, idle timing and WOT commanded fueling. The maf and ve were BONE STOCK!!! and it was commanding around 9.7:1 to get your 12.5ish afr at wot. I know these are details you and I talked about but details I wanted everyone to know.
> 
> Also, I have been lacking on posting results since I know guys will want pictures of the car or sometimes timeslips. I have no problem posting combo’s and results but in the respect that some of my guys still grudge race around here pics will not be posted.
> 
> F-body  
> afr 205 headed  
> custom spec cam by me  
> 347 CI  
> stock crank  
> stock rods  
> forged pistons  
> 525hp/500ft-lbs  
> 6speed car through a 12bolt  
> 3850lbs raceweight and still traps upper 130’s
> 
> F-body  
> “SBE” car  
> custom cam  
> dart heads  
> carb mani  
> 4150 style TB  
> th400  
> 12bolt  
> spray (and lots of it)  
> 3300 race weight has seen the 9.1x range many many times

so what ur saying is Drew’s “tuner” hosed him for a few hundred $ and barely changed anything. thus resulting in a 1/2 assed tune and leaving alot of driveability issues on the table? perhaps causing part of his issue with not being able to get a 400+hp car out of the 13’s?

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/108 "2009-12-18T12:19:40Z")

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yah^ exactly and remember in another thread about how his “new tune and gears” really woke up the car…hahaha OKKKKKK

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/109 "2009-12-18T12:27:59Z")

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> [@ordering delivery vehicle for the pizzeria and have Ordered toady \*\*UPDATE\*\* 4/9/07](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordering-delivery-vehicle-for-the-pizzeria-and-have-ordered-toady-update-4-9-07/27234/44):
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> yah^ exactly and remember in another thread about how his “new tune and gears” really woke up the car…hahaha OKKKKKK

im sure the tune was only part of the drag time issue. (driver error), but dude if i found out i shelled out a bunch of money for a garbage tune id flip a shit. (mind you i did have a tune that caused a blown motor and i did flip a shit about it…) drew’s been lucky thus far that theres been no damage to his shiny new LS6 with the crappy tune he received.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/110 "2009-12-18T13:51:59Z")

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> [@The last movie you've seen, and rate it.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-last-movie-youve-seen-and-rate-it/27425/34):
>
> so what ur saying is Drew’s “tuner” hosed him for a few hundred $ and barely changed anything. thus resulting in a 1/2 assed tune and leaving alot of driveability issues on the table? perhaps causing part of his issue with not being able to get a 400+hp car out of the 13’s?

What im saying is that there is no way you can expect the car to run correctly when you put a cam in there no matter if it is his MS3 or any cam for that fact and get it to run on stock fueling tables. You cant go and change the brain of the motor and expect it to be right with stock programming.

Its not the amount of changes that mean anything its correctly tuning all the tables needed to make it run correctly. I am shocked he said it started cold as well as it did but when you command damn near 1500 cold idle and tripple the running airflow anything will start. Thank god the computer has fuel and spark trims its the only thing saving it right now

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/111 "2009-12-18T13:59:45Z")

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> [@Got my back done](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-my-back-done/27455/6):
>
> What im saying is that there is no way you can expect the car to run correctly when you put a cam in there no matter if it is his MS3 or any cam for that fact and get it to run on stock fueling tables. You cant go and change the brain of the motor and expect it to be right with stock programming.
> 
> Its not the amount of changes that mean anything its correctly tuning all the tables needed to make it run correctly. I am shocked he said it started cold as well as it did but when you command damn near 1500 cold idle and tripple the running airflow anything will start. Thank god the computer has fuel and spark trims its the only thing saving it right now

please fix it for him… his “tuner” sounds like a :retardclap

from what ive read from you thus far it seems like you know your shit. id be very inclined to see your work when u come up to ny… mind you i dont, nor will i own any LSx based vehicle when ur around but… im interested to learn something none the less.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/112 "2009-12-18T17:16:41Z")

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I fully intended on spending as much time as it takes to make his car perfect for what it is. We already hashed out the details personally.

You and anyone else are welcome to stop by when we are tuning no matter if its on the dyno if we line one up or out on the street. I dont mind helping people out to start learning the basics or just understand what is going on.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/113 "2009-12-18T17:18:57Z")

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what do u prfer for tunin lt1,s ? LT1 EDIT OR TUNERCATS ? i have the edit now but not so kean on it

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/114 "2009-12-18T17:24:27Z")

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> [@NEWS : BMW M3 saloon](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/news-bmw-m3-saloon/27451/7):
>
> I fully intended on spending as much time as it takes to make his car perfect for what it is. We already hashed out the details personally.
> 
> You and anyone else are welcome to stop by when we are tuning no matter if its on the dyno if we line one up or out on the street. I dont mind helping people out to start learning the basics or just understand what is going on.

ive done some very basic tuning with my previous car. just adjusting timing through the entire rpm range via opensource on my subaru STi. im sure its nothing fantastic but if you know anything about the program it basically allows you access to every part of the stock ecu. it allows realtime feedback as well so datalogging is pretty simple. i miss the simplicity of that, but the next project will be amusing as well.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/115 "2009-12-18T19:07:48Z")

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> [@The last movie you've seen, and rate it.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-last-movie-youve-seen-and-rate-it/27425/33):
>
> That is a complicated answer in my eyes. I have tuned ltx vehicles but have stopped tuning the ltx computer.  
> [http://www.eficonnection.com/24x/default.htm](http://www.eficonnection.com/24x/default.htm)  
> Since this kit came out to retro fit the ls computer onto the lt platform I have always reccomending swapping to it then I will tune from there. I fully understand its an slight investment but the 0411 pcm is miles ahead of the lt computer and expands the horizon of what you can do with your engine and gives you much better control over your transmission as well. The DIY kits arent that expensive and the swap truly isnt that bad. Just sucks that GM IMO skimpped on the lt computer compared to the '749 in the syty and then the 0411 in the LS platform
> 
> I was on the list to goto that school since Adam at popsracing got me in as a favor. Had a business trip planned already so I have to wait for the next one. I have talked to Greg banish a few times before and he is a very smart man. Just wanted to take the class to confirm my practices especially with the late model virtual VE tables and the scaling when hitting injector flow limits or creating more room in the maf and load tables on high HP or forced inducted applications
> 
> A ton of LS platforms just recently more TBSS’s than anything else since they are the popular thing.
> 
> Very intelligent post and yes that holds 99% true. the priciples are the same just implementing changes from platform to platform
> 
> I agree as well. I.E. the tbss loads the motor harder than a vette so it takes less timing to get to MBT
> 
> Yes your car was a classic case of “dyno tune” otherwise known as PE raping. only major changes were injector flow rate, idle timing and WOT commanded fueling. The maf and ve were BONE STOCK!!! and it was commanding around 9.7:1 to get your 12.5ish afr at wot. I know these are details you and I talked about but details I wanted everyone to know.
> 
> Also, I have been lacking on posting results since I know guys will want pictures of the car or sometimes timeslips. I have no problem posting combo’s and results but in the respect that some of my guys still grudge race around here pics will not be posted.
> 
> F-body  
> afr 205 headed  
> custom spec cam by me  
> 347 CI  
> stock crank  
> stock rods  
> forged pistons  
> 525hp/500ft-lbs  
> 6speed car through a 12bolt  
> 3850lbs raceweight and still traps upper 130’s
> 
> F-body  
> “SBE” car  
> custom cam  
> dart heads  
> carb mani  
> 4150 style TB  
> th400  
> 12bolt  
> spray (and lots of it)  
> 3300 race weight has seen the 9.1x range many many times

The funny thing is, I did the Injector scaling myself AND the idle timing. When I got my car after the dyno tune, it didnt really run how I wanted it too…so I started tuning it myself and got it tweaked enough to make it run some what decent…

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/116 "2009-12-18T19:11:14Z")

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> [@ordering delivery vehicle for the pizzeria and have Ordered toady \*\*UPDATE\*\* 4/9/07](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordering-delivery-vehicle-for-the-pizzeria-and-have-ordered-toady-update-4-9-07/27234/52):
>
> The funny thing is, I did the Injector scaling myself AND the idle timing. When I got my car after the dyno tune, it didnt really run how I wanted it too…so I started tuning it myself and got it tweaked enough to make it run some what decent…

i thought you were oh so happy with your tune and how ur car ran when you got it back?

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/117 "2009-12-18T19:11:31Z")

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> [@Newman's 1986 BMW 326rb build thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newmans-1986-bmw-326rb-build-thread/22123/1000):
>
> im sure the tune was only part of the drag time issue. (driver error), but dude if i found out i shelled out a bunch of money for a garbage tune id flip a shit. (mind you i did have a tune that caused a blown motor and i did flip a shit about it…) drew’s been lucky thus far that theres been no damage to his shiny new LS6 with the crappy tune he received.

I didnt really shell alot out on a tune. You got to remember, I dropped my car off to have alot of shit done to it…and the price was right for me. He just asked me if I wanted him to tune it on the dyno sense he was doing the cam/valvetrain/oil pump install for a few hundred bucks more.

I have heard from various people that hes a great mechanic, but not a good tuner.

but whatever…I was happy with how the car ran for a cam only car…Guess theirs alot more left on the table???

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/118 "2009-12-18T19:12:19Z")

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> [@FS: IROC Z MINT](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-iroc-z-mint/27036/34):
>
> i thought you were oh so happy with your tune and how ur car ran when you got it back?

Im talking about when I just picked my car up last year after the cam install and shit…not the previous time from a few weeks ago…which I was very happy about actually.

Also, I cant really say hes a bad tuner actually. Hes got to be doing something right…Hes got a cam only LS1 Camaro running 10.38’s @ 129…#6 for the cam only LS1 record. and his other own personal 2000 Z28 running low 9’s…So to say hes bad at what hes doing IMO is a little out of the loop…however, I think he did slack on my car and I would have never really known how much if it wasnt for Brandon taking a look at my tune and comparing it to a stock one.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/119 "2009-12-18T19:15:51Z")

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so how much is potentially left on the table is the question?

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-motorsports-in-albany-ny-attn-all-ls-vehicles/249044/120 "2009-12-18T19:42:04Z")

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> [@\*OFFICIAL\* 06-07 Toronto Maple Leafs Season Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-06-07-toronto-maple-leafs-season-thread/18511/505):
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> so how much is potentially left on the table is the question?

I guess lol

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