# FBI is using your iPhone to track you
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [September 4, 2012, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709 "2012-09-04T06:07:20Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/21 "2012-09-04T12:34:20Z")
> [@Carnut](#):
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> If this conversation would have taken place 4 years ago it would have been tinfoil crucifix. However it seems more and more these days that things like this are coming to light with the help of people like hackers. What’s most disturbing is how easy these things blow over now, as if it should just be accepted.
4 years ago we were using flip phones which weren’t prime targets. 😛
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### Author:  [@HallockR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HallockR)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/22 "2012-09-04T12:42:32Z")
I thought the FBI had been doing this for years.
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### Author:  [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/23 "2012-09-04T13:03:02Z")
Scary because its just ordinary people,criminals use prepaid phones.
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### Author:  [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/24 "2012-09-04T13:18:39Z")
For everyone who thinks this is no big deal, lots of providers lock your UDID to logins. Spoofing this can take over a persons Facebook, Twitter, Game Center, and a bunch of other application accounts on top of the other flaws with the UDID.
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/25 "2012-09-04T13:19:19Z")
word on the street is that it’s fake
the entries i pasted above also seem suspicious
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/26 "2012-09-04T13:21:54Z")
I don’t see how the names seem suspicious
People name their computers/laptops/iPads all kinds of weird shit
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### Author:  [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/27 "2012-09-04T13:26:08Z")
My personal computer was AIDS for a while…anything is possible.
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/28 "2012-09-04T14:52:22Z")
We’ll see how it shakes out. Has anyone heard of a confirmation that their data is in the list?
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### Author:  [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/29 "2012-09-04T16:45:50Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> word on the street is that it’s fake
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> the entries i pasted above also seem suspicious
They don’t think the data is fake, they just think it may not have come from the FBI computer and it came from other exploits to reveal the info using services. I guess the FBI isn’t aware that any computers were compromised is what sparked it.
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### Author:  [@Dekar12](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dekar12)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2012, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/30 "2012-09-05T07:42:43Z")
FBI did a press release that said there was no signs of the laptop being compromised and that the FBI never had such information to begin with. If they never release the full list there is going to be real no way to validate whether the information was real or fake.
Both sides have agendas and could be lying about this, which is why it is a decent conspiracy target.
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/31 "2012-09-05T20:08:21Z")
> [@boxxa](#):
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> They don’t think the data is fake, they just think it may not have come from the FBI computer and it came from other exploits to reveal the info using services. I guess the FBI isn’t aware that any computers were compromised is what sparked it.
The original filename has NCFTA in it, implying that the file or data originated there, which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
An article that I read today indicated that at least some entries in the disclosure is valid, so it’s starting to sound more like it’s real.
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### Author:  [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/32 "2012-09-06T08:00:20Z")
Apple denied anything involved with it.
> **[Apple: We Didn’t Give FBI Any Device IDs](http://allthingsd.com/20120905/apple-we-didnt-give-fbi-any-device-ids/)**
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> The company says that if the FBI has iPhone and iPad UDIDs -- as claimed by a hacker group and denied by the agency -- it didn't get them from Apple.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2012, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/33 "2012-09-10T09:38:52Z")
My bros over at Intrepidus group [http://intrepidusgroup.com/insight/2012/09/tracking-udid-src/](http://intrepidusgroup.com/insight/2012/09/tracking-udid-src/)
and NBC [http://redtape.nbcnews.com/\_news/2012/09/10/13781440-exclusive-the-real-source-of-apple-device-ids-leaked-by-anonymous-last-week](http://redtape.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/10/13781440-exclusive-the-real-source-of-apple-device-ids-leaked-by-anonymous-last-week)
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2012, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fbi-is-using-your-iphone-to-track-you/225709/34 "2012-09-10T10:07:10Z")
interesting twist!
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