# FCC loses ruling :(

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [April 6, 2010, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886 "2010-04-06T14:42:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2015, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/61 "2015-02-25T09:01:13Z")

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Any government involvement (fcc or congress) sets a precedent that government can and will impose regulations if they feel it’s necessary.

Again, the alternative is worse, but it’s a fair point that regulation CAN hurt the Internet.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2015, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/62 "2015-02-25T09:02:39Z")

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It’s entertaining because not so long ago the government gave up control at ICANN

> **[After Snowden revelations, U.S. to get out of overseeing the Web](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/us-to-relinquish-remaining-control-over-the-internet/2014/03/14/0c7472d0-abb5-11e3-adbc-888c8010c799_story.html?noredirect=on)**
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> Move comes after revelations about National Security Agency surveillance

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### Author: ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2015, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/63 "2015-02-25T09:07:50Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> I’m having fun on Facebook with people who are against this but have no idea why other than the government and obama sucks.
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> It’s funny when the ONLY group against this is comcast/twc/verzion all of which consumers hate
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> And Amazon/Google/etc are all for it all of which consumers love
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> It’s also entertaining that people think OMG THE GOVERNMENT IS SUDDENLY INVOLVED in the internet skipping the fact it was started by DAPRA and has been heavily funded/subsidized by the government.
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> I think the fear is the FCC will then restrict content on the internet?

To be fair it’s not entirely cut and dry…This is good, this is bad. It more so, this option sucks less than the alternative.

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### Author: ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2015, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/64 "2015-02-25T09:08:44Z")

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:tup: Glad to see this happening now. I’ve been in favor from the beginning. And welcome to the club of trying to argue with the anti-Obama crowd. If he likes it, it must be bad! Screw you and your facts. Yay Comcast/TWC!

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2015, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/65 "2015-02-25T11:46:10Z")

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“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan!”

Can’t imagine why people are hesitant to hand the internet over to this guy. 🙂

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2015, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/66 "2015-02-25T11:50:38Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> :tup: Glad to see this happening now. I’ve been in favor from the beginning. And welcome to the club of trying to argue with the anti-Obama crowd. If he likes it, it must be bad! Screw you and your facts. Yay Comcast/TWC!

you socialist pig

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### Author: ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/67 "2015-02-25T20:47:54Z")

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lol Joe is a die hard.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/68 "2015-02-26T06:01:59Z")

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So now everyone keeps mentioning some large document put together by the FCC about this I would love to read that before agreeing or disagreeing 🙂

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### Author: ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/69 "2015-02-26T07:20:35Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> So now everyone keeps mentioning some large document put together by the FCC about this I would love to read that before agreeing or disagreeing 🙂

lol +1

We don’t even know what it does yet. We know in theory what everyone THINKS it’s going to do, but no one really knows. All we have is a “fact sheet.”

> **[Dear FCC: Rethink The Vague "General Conduct" Rule](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/dear-fcc-rethink-those-vague-general-conduct-rules)**
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> For many months, EFF has been working with a broad coalition of advocates to persuade the Federal Communications Commission to adopt new Open Internet rules that would survive legal scrutiny and actually help protect the Open Internet. Our message...

“Light-touch regulation” is an oxymoron though.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/70 "2015-02-26T07:23:08Z")

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On a positive note the internet and technology sector is the one the US has going for it and if they try anything stupid Google/Amazon/Apple have a lot of pull.

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### Author: ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/71 "2015-02-26T10:02:58Z")

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> **['Net Neutrality' Rules Would Regulate Internet Like A Utility](http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/02/26/poll-majority-of-americans-opposed-to-net-neutrality-rules/)**
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> Two out of three Americans remain opposed to a U.S. government regulatory role when it comes to the Internet.

  
Poll: Most Americans don’t understand what the fuck they’re talking about but oppose it anyway. :roflpicard:

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/72 "2015-02-26T10:32:59Z")

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How is that new internet coming along. I have read about a couple of different people/companies who want to start their own. I don’t even understand how that is possible but I read it on the internets so it must be true.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/73 "2015-02-26T11:33:59Z")

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It passed guess we will find out whats in it.

I do love that people who have 0 idea how the internet works are taking a stand and bitching about this

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### Author: ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/74 "2015-02-26T11:41:22Z")

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What’s to understand? They do porn over there and it gets over here…

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/75 "2015-02-26T12:00:17Z")

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I heard it passed. Is that why I can’t get to tube8? Thanks Obama.

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### Author: ![Gus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gus/32/5112_2.png) [@Gus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gus)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/76 "2015-02-26T12:20:52Z")

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Is meatspin still up?

T-30 days until TW/Comcast merger

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### Author: ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/77 "2015-02-26T12:22:02Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> I heard it passed. Is that why I can’t get to tube8? Thanks Obama.

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### Author: ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/78 "2015-02-27T04:42:58Z")

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> **[Why the FCC's New Net Neutrality Rules are Good for the Internet](https://lifehacker.com/why-the-fccs-new-net-neutrality-rules-are-good-for-the-1683769527)**
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> Today, the FCC voted to pass the Open Internet Order, which will classify the internet as a utility under Title II regulations. Here's what that mess of jargon means and how it affects you.

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### Author: ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/79 "2017-11-21T14:15:03Z")

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hey should we start talking about this again?

maybe rename thread to net neutrality thread?

i need to be told how to feel about it and how to sound smart in front of people when it comes up in conversation.

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### Author: ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fcc-loses-ruling/152886/80 "2017-11-21T14:33:18Z")

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If you like the big telcos controlling what you can access and how fast, oppose net neutrality.  
If you believe that all data should be treated equally, regardless of where your content is coming from, favor it.  
If you think your ISP should be able to censor sites or make their content load like shit, or throttle their competitors, or let big business pay to throttle their competitors, favor.  
Since you like all the rest of the Republican view points that screw the little guy and help big business, I imagine you’re against net neutrality. It’s basically creating a pay to play system.

Example, say AT&T goes through with buying Time Warner/HBO. Currently they can’t make HBO GO run perfectly on my AT&T home or mobile internet and Showtime Anytime run like shit. If Trump’s cronies at the FCC now have their way, they could basically hold all video services they don’t own hostage unless either the consumer or provider pays them more. Also makes it really easy to push an agenda by basically limiting people’s access to opposing viewpoints.

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