# federal minimum wage increase ... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 10, 2007, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862 "2007-01-10T10:26:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/21 "2007-01-10T12:51:39Z")
> [@drvnkd](#): > > doesnt really matter what the minimum wage is… > decent jobs should pay more than min. > > if you are going to live off of minumum wage all your life, you will fail. Who is going to do the shit jobs then if the pay does not let you live? That’s a pretty piss-poor attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/22 "2007-01-10T12:52:21Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > the raise in prices to compensate I would imagine could be super small…like a couple pennies on items werd there are thousands of items sold at store xxx, and maybe 20 workers that will get a 1 dollar raise. now if all of a sudden the price of a super mighty jumps up to 6.75, then im going to have to step in, and no one wants any of that shit. ---
**Author:** ![jeeves744](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeeves744/32/7619_2.png) [@jeeves744](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeeves744)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/23 "2007-01-10T12:53:00Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Who is going to do the shit jobs then if the pay does not let you live? That’s a pretty piss-poor attitude. teenagers ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/24 "2007-01-10T12:53:20Z")
I just placed a very large order for parts from China.:gotme: ---
**Author:** ![BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BaD_AZz_Z_28)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/25 "2007-01-10T12:55:49Z")
> [@jeeves744](#): > > Just remember NYS increasing minimum wage made mighty taco switch from the good nachos to the shitty ones hmmm well now that you put it into terms that were detrimental to us… :lol: ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/26 "2007-01-10T12:58:34Z")
teenagers, and the low income “groups” that is quickly becoming the majority in suburban areas, more money=more problems in these types of areas… ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/27 "2007-01-10T13:06:43Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Who is going to do the shit jobs then if the pay does not let you live? That’s a pretty piss-poor attitude. if nobody wants to do a job, then the there will need to be an incentive… like higher pay. i have a piss poor attitude because there are so many people that are not contributing to society. i work hard to pay my taxes, so that they can be redistributed others with even worse attitudes. (yes, i’m generalizing :D) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/28 "2007-01-10T13:08:58Z")
Know what this thread needs? More opinions from economists, and less opinions from people that have no clue. I’ve been trying to find real opinions on this but most of the articles I’ve seen are clearly biased one way or the other. I don’t care what some liberal democrat thinks, because they’re doing this for votes from their base, not caring what it does or doesn’t do for the economy. The same goes for the view of some conservative republican. What I want to know is what independent business and financial groups think. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/29 "2007-01-10T13:13:05Z")
Why a federal law? Let each state decide. If California wants it to be fair then they can raise theirs to $20.00/hour. Do you see where I am going with this? ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/30 "2007-01-10T13:19:24Z")
taxes go up, insurance goes up(disability, workers comp,etc…) cost for raw materials… maintaining profit margins is what businesses do. ex. a small company making 20% profits makes more after cutting 30% of the workforce. the work will be redisributed/refined so that less people can do more. industries with low profit margins tend to have high volumes. that will distribute the increased expenses. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/31 "2007-01-10T13:35:10Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Why a federal law? > Let each state decide. > If California wants it to be fair then they can raise theirs to $20.00/hour. > Do you see where I am going with this? :tup: Great point. Hell, why not on a county level even. Buffalo vs NYC are drastically different too. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/32 "2007-01-10T13:57:51Z")
The arguement I see a lot supporting higher minimum wage that really pisses me off is, “How is a family of 4 supposed to live on $5.15 an hour.” Wait, who told you to have two kids when you’re working at minimum wage? And why is it societies responsibility to make sure that no matter how unskilled you are you can afford to have two kids? The fact is with one or two parents making 5.15, or 7.25, you’re not going to give 2 kids much of a life in most places in this country. Be responsible and hold of having those kids until you can actually afford them. I’m not saying I’m against raising the minimum wage, because like I said, I haven’t seen enough good unskewed data to form an opinion, but I will take issue with anyone using the support a family arguement. ---
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/33 "2007-01-10T14:05:43Z")
> [@zwarbyt](#): > > we need to do away with minimum wage, people under a certian age bracket and non homeowners should make a low wage (teenagers part time etc) while married homeowning parents etc SHOULD make a living wage. end of story, logisticly its too hard to execute though… > > either way higher wages = more taxes :bloated: So your saying we should pay based off of age and your debt. I didn;t tell you to buy a house, have kids, get married. If you do a job, you should get paid for it just the same as the next guy. I am not normally with the dems on anything, but this is one i agree with. True most places pay more than even this raise, so what will it hurt. I guess you forget that back in HS you got paid 5 bucks an hour, and gas was a dollar or so. Now some kids are still making 5 bucks, and gas is around 2.50 a gallon, and you don’t think that something should be changed. Truth be known, employeers will fuck whoever they can, which is usually the young and dumb HS’s. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/34 "2007-01-10T15:32:48Z")
“Sometimes I think this should be called [NYSHORTBUS.com](http://NYSHORTBUS.com)” --AWDrifter ---
**Author:** ![95Z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/85e7bf/32.png) [@95Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95Z28)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/35 "2007-01-10T15:53:01Z")
The thing that pisses me off is back when I was like 14…standing over a fucking dishwasher at a restaurant kitchen sweating my nutsack off, working till 3 in the morning on a friday night for like 4.75 an hour…Now some kid can go out, do the same job (or something better) and make 2.50 more an hour. ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/36 "2007-01-10T16:17:39Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Know what this thread needs? More opinions from economists, and less opinions from people that have no clue. :word: > [@95Z28](#): > > The thing that pisses me off is back when I was like 14…standing over a fucking dishwasher at a restaurant kitchen sweating my nutsack off, working till 3 in the morning on a friday night for like 4.75 an hour…Now some kid can go out, do the same job (or something better) and make 2.50 more an hour. Just like you are pissing off the guy that had to walk to school back when he was 14 with cardboard taped to his feet UPHILL, while you were wearing Nikes riding the bus 😛 _It’s called progress people…_ ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/37 "2007-01-10T16:38:41Z")
AWD - You know, I read this article at work this morning… You are the first person I thought of. …and that is nearly what I expected You to say/post/respond. > [@AWDrifter](#): > > I just placed a very large order for parts from China.:gotme: Can anyone else tell me why large business entities are sending call centers, data centers, and operations centers out of the US? 2000 employees x $2/hour = $8.32m 1500 employees x $7/hour = $21.8m Does anyone know why I could buy a nearly identical DC servo motor from a (taiwanese) importer for $0.72 /per (with freight), when the LOCALLY made motor costs $1.90? Seriously…? Wait… just wait till The Governator gets his statewide health insurance law into place. There will be no more small business. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/38 "2007-01-10T18:56:48Z")
I love it when NYS does this because everyone at wegmans gets a raise,no matter what your pay rate or position is…its just to be fair.:tup: ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/39 "2007-01-10T19:00:41Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > Wait… just wait till The Governator gets his statewide health insurance law into place. There will be no more small business. I don’t really care how much he fucks up CA. I’m never going to live there. I live in the #2 liberal state in the nation and most of the time I feel like everyone around me is taking stupid pills, so why would I want to move to the #1 liberal state? Unless like at the end of Judge Dredge, when Judges retire and bring law to the lawless, old Conservatives retire and try to bring common sense to the senseless. What scares me is we just plucked Nancy Pelosi out of that state and put her in charge of the House. Now instead of just running her state into the ground, she’s got a shot at the whole country. Yay! ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862/40 "2007-01-10T19:27:54Z")
I think the farm minimum wage in NY is $6.75, does this mean that farmers will have to increase pay to meet federal standards? Maybe WALMART will start importing fresh produce too.:bloated: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-minimum-wage-increase/22862.md?page=3)