# Federal Pensions cost $70 billion a year **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 10, 2013, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745 "2013-04-10T10:43:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/1 "2013-04-10T10:43:22Z")
And the outrageous ones aren’t the typical middle class worker. > United States government pension plans pay out more than $70 billion a year to about 1.8 million retired federal workers. But not all government retirees are created equal. According to data acquired by Bloomberg News through the Freedom of Information Act, almost 15,000 retired federal workers earn more than $100,000 a year. This includes 9.3% of former employees of the [Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)](http://www.allgov.com/Agency/Securities_and_Exchange_Commission). > Lawmakers and cabinet officials don’t do too badly either. **Members of Congress can begin collecting their pensions at 62 if they have served a mere five years in office.** If they’ve served 20 years, they can collect at age 50. Source: > **[Thousands of Federal Retirees Receive $100,000 a Year Pensions…Including Newt...](http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/thousands-of-federal-retirees-receive-100000-a-year-pensionsincluding-newt-gingrich?news=843922)** > > United States government pension plans pay out more than $70 billion a year to about 1.8 million retired federal workers. But not all government retirees are created equal. According to data acquired by Bloomberg News through the Freedom of Inform... Hardly any of Congressmen are ever in a need of retirement funds, yet they can’t figure out how to help the budget. :popcorn ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/2 "2013-04-10T10:44:25Z")
dont most people in congress die before retiring though? Seems like theres alot of old fucks in office ---
**Author:** ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/3 "2013-04-10T12:19:11Z")
> [@Anyone have any Deck building software?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-have-any-deck-building-software/52345/4): > > dont most people in congress die before retiring though? Seems like theres alot of old fucks in office usually they retire first but they are a bunch of old fucks because everyone bitches about the government sucking but has a its not my guy its yours mentality so they keep re-electing the same guy. ---
**Author:** ![matteg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b77776/32.png) [@matteg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matteg)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/4 "2013-04-13T18:22:17Z")
ya know what, whatever…im not entirely opposed to it. since its a pension that implies that they worked at some point. the government forks out a retarded amount of cash for people who dont work at all. even though these congress peeps do a terrible job, at least they arent posted up on a porch all day long while i wake up for work at 5am and pay taxes ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/5 "2013-04-13T20:33:41Z")
> [@Americans Driving Less](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americans-driving-less/52355/12): > > ya know what, whatever…im not entirely opposed to it. > > since its a pension that implies that they worked at some point. the government forks out a retarded amount of cash for people who dont work at all. even though these congress peeps do a terrible job, at least they arent posted up on a porch all day long while i wake up for work at 5am and pay taxes You do realize that _everybody_ pays taxes right? Also everybody has worked “at some point”. IE if you’re fine with government “working at some point” and getting a 6 figure retirement for the rest of their life from their tax dollars, you are sure as hell fine with “porch people” who also “worked at some point” getting money for a few years from the government as well. As long as you’re being consistent… ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/6 "2013-04-13T22:24:45Z")
> [@$1.50 Cheesecake Factory](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1-50-cheesecake-factory/52383/2): > > You do realize that **_most people_** pay taxes right? fixed it for ya. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/7 "2013-04-14T04:06:11Z")
> [@craigslist hilarity (cross posted from dubsinthebutt)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/craigslist-hilarity-cross-posted-from-dubsinthebutt/52380/18): > > fixed it for ya. Show me a person that doesn’t pay sales tax… ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/8 "2013-04-14T05:59:54Z")
Native American Indians dont pay tax on anything. They carry a card that they show and dont have to pay tax anywhere. Ive seen it and was talking to an indian I knew and she told me about it. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/9 "2013-04-14T07:03:07Z")
:rofl ---
**Author:** ![yota](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@yota](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yota)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/10 "2013-04-14T07:06:14Z")
I’d be willing to bet a LOT of those federal pensions are retired military too… I’ve talked to 20+ year retired E9s who make over 60k/year with retirement and disability- and they deserve every penny. A lot of retired officers get close to or over 6 figures as well, depending on their rank at retirement… Tap dat talk ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/11 "2013-04-14T07:06:19Z")
> [@Rust hole, whats my best course of action?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rust-hole-whats-my-best-course-of-action/52384/2): > > Native American Indians dont pay tax on anything. They carry a card that they show and dont have to pay tax anywhere. > > Ive seen it and was talking to an indian I knew and she told me about it. Did you know that the government makes sure that it never snows on reservations?? True fact. Don’t even bother looking it up. [http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101202201543AA2BSX6](http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101202201543AA2BSX6) ---
**Author:** ![yota](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@yota](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yota)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/12 "2013-04-14T07:09:38Z")
> [@Rust hole, whats my best course of action?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rust-hole-whats-my-best-course-of-action/52384/2): > > Native American Indians dont pay tax on anything. They carry a card that they show and dont have to pay tax anywhere. > > Ive seen it and was talking to an indian I knew and she told me about it. Strong PJB, PJB :rofl Tap dat talk ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/13 "2013-04-14T07:59:23Z")
This girl said she used that card at walmart. Dont believe everything you read on the internet. Yahoo answers is probably as legit as this site when looking for the truth ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/14 "2013-04-14T11:30:38Z")
> [@craigslist hilarity (cross posted from dubsinthebutt)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/craigslist-hilarity-cross-posted-from-dubsinthebutt/52380/19): > > Show me a person that doesn’t pay sales tax… I thought you meant income tax… ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/15 "2013-04-14T16:21:25Z")
> [@Boys: Boxers, Briefs, or Boxer Briefs...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boys-boxers-briefs-or-boxer-briefs/52387/56): > > This girl said she used that card at walmart. > > Dont believe everything you read on the internet. Yahoo answers is probably as legit as this site when looking for the truth You want a million other links? You ever work retail? What would you do if a Native American handed you a card and said “don’t charge me tax” besides telling him to go fuck hinself? The only thing that makes you seem half intelligent is the fact that your new posts set your bar even lower and the old PJB looks brilliant by comparison. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/16 "2013-04-14T16:48:28Z")
I dont know what the fuck your issue is with me but I never gave you reason to have one with me. You just seem to go out of your way to say/do shit to me lately. They really do carry tax exempt cards whether or not you want to believe it. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/17 "2013-04-14T16:57:24Z")
> [@craigslist hilarity (cross posted from dubsinthebutt)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/craigslist-hilarity-cross-posted-from-dubsinthebutt/52380/30): > > I dont know what the fuck your issue is with me but I never gave you reason to have one with me. You just seem to go out of your way to say/do shit to me lately. > > They really do carry tax exempt cards whether or not you want to believe it. I’m sure they do. And they use them on their reservations. They also get rain delivered by cloud seeding and chem trails, free by the government. They also don’t need passports to go overseas. They also don’t need birth certificates. Native Americans don’t have to get licenses. Indians can get paid unemployment even if they work over the table. They get social security even though they pay NO TAXES. They actually get a tax refund in THOUSANDS of dollars. They don’t have to wait in lines if they use their cards. True story. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/18 "2013-04-14T17:19:02Z")
Have you even ever seen or met an indian? ---
**Author:** ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/19 "2013-04-14T18:34:02Z")
umm…get gas on the reservations, it’s cheaper. i do this when i go out to my gmas. ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745/20 "2013-04-14T18:37:25Z")
> [@Ok, which one of you perverts is fondling women in their sleep?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-which-one-of-you-perverts-is-fondling-women-in-their-sleep/52388/13): > > Have you even ever seen or met an indian? Native American…Indians own quickie marts. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/federal-pensions-cost-70-billion-a-year/266745.md?page=2)