# Figures Show Buffalo Remains Third Poorest in the Nation

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**Category:** PolitiSUCK
**Created:** [September 30, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215 "2009-09-30T06:36:56Z")
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### Author: ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/21 "2009-09-30T08:36:06Z")

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> [@Pauly](#):
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> This area should be thriving, where else in the usa do you have the oppurtunities that we have(water/mnts/canada/etc…) and no earthquake/floods/tornadoes/etc… people should be flocking here.  
> the falls -----please if there ever was a disfunctional govt

Yep. Being on the border of another country as well. Cash from Canadian imports yada yada yada.

I by no means am saying I have the knowhow to pull this stuff off (yet). Just saying those that are in office and in positions whom are “professionals” should be able to or else WTF are they doing in there.

Taxing the shit out of working class and fee’ing them do death isn’t the answer. It makes them leave or lowers the quality of living here for the masses. Dunno if we have any readers in here. Check out “the tipping point”, excellent book about mass psychology. Anyhow, the short relation to this is the way NYC and it’s crime was cleaned up. They didn’t create a HUGE task force or have a HUGE budget. They cleaned up grafitti which is a sign of a broken system. They started going after fare beaters, which seems petty but they soon realized 2 things. First the fare beaters were most times carrying weapons and had criminal records, sometimes warrants. So they could get trash off the street by simply looking for fare beaters. Also non criminals would see a fare beater and think “why should I pay, he didn’t”. So you had decent people stealing and acting criminal. Moral/Cliffs are it’s often the small changes that create a tipping point.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/22 "2009-09-30T08:48:06Z")

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> [@Pauly](#):
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> This area should be thriving, where else in the usa do you have the oppurtunities that we have(water/mnts/canada/etc…) and no earthquake/floods/tornadoes/etc… people should be flocking here.  
> the falls -----please if there ever was a disfunctional govt

High speed rail from Niagara to Eville!!!(maybe stop in Buffalo, maybe)

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### Author: ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/23 "2009-09-30T08:52:27Z")

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I hate it when articles don’t have a link to the whole list.

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### Author: ![Pauly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pauly/32/7493_2.png) [@Pauly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pauly)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/24 "2009-09-30T09:05:51Z")

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we need changeeeeeeeeeeee. I dont even care who just different

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/25 "2009-09-30T09:09:15Z")

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> [@Pauly](#):
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> we need changeeeeeeeeeeee. I dont even care who just different

That is how we got Obama.:io:

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/26 "2009-09-30T09:16:47Z")

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sounds like more need for the monorail!! what could go wrong?

![http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/funny-pictures-squirrels-collide.jpg](http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/funny-pictures-squirrels-collide.jpg)

but more seriously, if you make decent money in a poor city it’s a good thing… you get more value in many cases.

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#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/27 "2009-09-30T09:25:56Z")

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As much as I despise Kevin Gaughan, I applaud his recent efforts in reducing the size of government and government waste. That is a (small) step in the right direction.

See: [http://thecost.org/find.htm](http://thecost.org/find.htm)

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### Author: ![Storamin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Storamin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Storamin)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/28 "2009-09-30T09:32:02Z")

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i love this comment on the news article… lol.

“I have an idea. How about a city income tax for Buffalo. The money could go directly to help stamp out poverty and would make the wealthy elite pay for it. If you are working - you pay. If you are not working - you collect benefits. You know, spread the wealth around. Works for me.”

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### Author: ![Pauly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pauly/32/7493_2.png) [@Pauly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pauly)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/29 "2009-09-30T09:34:15Z")

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> [@Avatar](#):
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> As much as I despise Kevin Gaughan, I applaud his recent efforts in reducing the size of government and government waste. That is a (small) step in the right direction.
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> See: [http://thecost.org/find.htm](http://thecost.org/find.htm)

+1

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### Author: ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/30 "2009-09-30T09:50:12Z")

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I can’t find a list of cities, this is the closest I could come up with:

> **[Find poverty data for U.S. cities, counties and states; several Ohio cities rank...](http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2009/09/find_poverty_data_for_us_citie.html)**
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> Six Ohio cities rank among the top 50 in the country for poverty, new Census data released Tuesday shows. Find poverty data for each state and more than 1,300 cities and counties nationally.

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#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/31 "2009-09-30T10:01:58Z")

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Try the Census website

[http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/income.html](http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/income.html)

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### Author: ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/32 "2009-09-30T10:15:36Z")

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I suck at teh intraweb

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### Author: ![DokiZen6x](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dokizen6x/32/5386_2.png) [@DokiZen6x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DokiZen6x)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/33 "2009-09-30T10:23:37Z")

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I call bull shit on the free nys healthcare. Before i got diagnosed with cancer (when i had two soft ball sized monsters sticking out of my neck) it took me losing all of my income (apperently I made too much on my unemployment after getting laid off from Seal & Design) to finaly get Medicaid. That Family Health plus bullshit only works if you have kids. If you are single and laid off of work, NYS tells you to go fuck yourself.

Ive had six months of Chemo treatment at Roswell now, will be starting Radiation at the end of the month and so far Ive done nothing but fight with medicaid and social services to get any sort of help/aide. I just got food stamps last month. I still have absolutly no income at all. If it wasnt for my girlfriend supporting my cancer ridden ass i would have been dead before I even got diagnosed.

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### Author: ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/34 "2009-09-30T13:07:21Z")

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> [@Pauly](#):
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> This area should be thriving, where else in the usa do you have the oppurtunities that we have(water/mnts/canada/etc…) and no earthquake/floods/tornadoes/etc… people should be flocking here.  
> the falls -----please if there ever was a disfunctional govt

Nail on the head. We SHOULD be very competitive.

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### Author: ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/35 "2009-09-30T13:15:20Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Easy. In NY you WIC, HEAP, HUD, free healthcare, almost no taxes and other assistance. Then you get an off the books job and pay cash for your booze, cigs, cell phone etc.

Heap = $760 … a friend of mine didn’t pay heat for a winter cause of it. and her name wasn’t even on the lease,…

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### Author: ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/36 "2009-09-30T13:20:42Z")

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So why don’t more of us business minded people that believe in Buffalo and are going to stay here run for political office and try to make the changes the NEED to be changed.

I’ve honestly thought about running for a smaller position in local governent.

I mean if a blind idiot and Hillary could be higher ups in NYS, then hell, I have a chance… 🙂

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### Author: ![DokiZen6x](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dokizen6x/32/5386_2.png) [@DokiZen6x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DokiZen6x)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/37 "2009-09-30T13:22:22Z")

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> [@camarojoe](#):
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> So why don’t more of us business minded people that believe in Buffalo and are going to stay here run for political office and try to make the changes the NEED to be changed.
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> I’ve honestly thought about running for a smaller position in local governent.
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> I mean if a blind idiot and Hillary could be higher ups in NYS, then hell, I have a chance… 🙂

Id vote for you.

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### Author: ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/38 "2009-09-30T13:23:54Z")

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> [@camarojoe](#):
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> So why don’t more of us business minded people that believe in Buffalo and are going to stay here run for political office and try to make the changes the NEED to be changed.
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> I’ve honestly thought about running for a smaller position in local governent.
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> I mean if a blind idiot and Hillary could be higher ups in NYS, then hell, I have a chance… 🙂

well when 50% of the voting community is unemployeed… its kind of difficult to fight that…

then you have to worry about the black population whom 96% vote for a black candidate.

We need to put RX3 in office and trick people into voting for him. Then he can be buffalo’s savior.

too bad he is a complete douchebag ☹

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/39 "2009-09-30T13:31:06Z")

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> [@ILC](#):
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> Heap = $760 … a friend of mine didn’t pay heat for a winter cause of it. and her name wasn’t even on the lease,…

As my great aunt learned… $760 until you let it run out completely. Then they’ll give you more because it’s an emergency. 😉

And Camarojoe… I was really close to being on the Amherst ballot for town board this year. In the end I decided tacking on that part time job to my full time job would mean too little time with my daughter. As she gets a little older I will seriously consider it.

As ILC mentioned though, it’s no easy task in Buffalo. You have a very large percentage of the population that doesn’t want change because they’re living off the handouts. They’re not going to vote for the guy running on a “less handouts” platform. Why do you think the Republicans didn’t even bother putting up a candidate for mayor of Buffalo?

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### Author: ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figures-show-buffalo-remains-third-poorest-in-the-nation/74215/40 "2009-09-30T13:33:41Z")

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awesome!

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