# Fire & ice

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fire-ice/26673>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [March 28, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fire-ice/26673 "2007-03-28T13:03:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![RedDawg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@RedDawg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedDawg)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fire-ice/26673/3 "2007-03-28T13:07:49Z")

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[quote=“RobHimself,post:2,topic:26673"”]

Its a cool concept but its not really a good grill if thats what you are looking for. The burner covers a skillet type plate so the food doesnt get exposed to a flame at all. Its baskically like cooking with a grill pan. It is super cool to hit the button and your grill pops up though. If you want a great portable grill go with the weber Q

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no flame touching the meat is a big problem, i like to chargrill my beef. Thanks for the heads up, the weber grill is called a ‘Q’?

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