# Fireplace heater vs Ventless **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 2, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireplace-heater-vs-ventless/161059 "2010-10-02T20:15:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/51bf81/32.png) [@Hass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hass)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireplace-heater-vs-ventless/161059/1 "2010-10-02T20:15:14Z")
Currently I have a Napolean GDS50… [http://www.napoleonfireplaces.com/Stoves/stoves\_gas/gds50.html](http://www.napoleonfireplaces.com/Stoves/stoves_gas/gds50.html) On the info I have, it lists it as 76% AFUE max efficiency Is switching over to a vent free set up actually possible? I do realize they say they are not ideal for whole house heating… but if I am preventing 1/4 of my money from floating out the chimney… I am also running Propane as NG isn’t available in my area. So I pay a bit more per btu than NG. I’m thinking of something along the lines of this… [http://www.heater-store.com/procom\_ml300tba\_vent\_free\_liquid\_propane\_convection\_heater\_2738\_prd1.htm](http://www.heater-store.com/procom_ml300tba_vent_free_liquid_propane_convection_heater_2738_prd1.htm) Or any similar item HD/Lowes sells. The home is 792sq/ft. I do understand vent free heating will produce more moisture in the air, which since it’s typically very dry in the winter I don’t think that will be too much of a problem. Although I’m not totally sure how often the vent free will be on as you have to light most manually from what I’ve seen. Is this a terribly shitty idea? Or is there just not enough oxygen available in a typical home? I know it’s horribly, horribly insulated (4" of insul in teh attic with none in walls/floor) with leaks everywhere. Their bills last year were around $150-170/mo with the napolean heater. I’ve gutted the kitchen/bath this year and got everything insulated there with new windows and such, so that will help some… But yes yes… back to teh topic! Vent free as a main heating source? Or is that just stupid. edit; [http://www.heater-store.com/mr\_heater\_mhvfb30lpbt\_vent\_free\_wall\_mount\_heater\_30000\_btu\_hr\_3401\_prd1.htm](http://www.heater-store.com/mr_heater_mhvfb30lpbt_vent_free_wall_mount_heater_30000_btu_hr_3401_prd1.htm) tstat… electric ignition… yes? ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireplace-heater-vs-ventless/161059/2 "2010-10-02T21:54:58Z")
I’ve never had or experienced a ventless that didn’t make me sick. ---
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireplace-heater-vs-ventless/161059/3 "2010-10-02T22:47:03Z")
Ventless are garbage if you ask me. The fumes are discusting, no better than blasting a torpedo heater inside. I know of 2 people that used wall mount ventless heaters, the fumes made your eyes water and ruin paint over time. ---
**Author:** ![JDMSIR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmsir/32/7376_2.png) [@JDMSIR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMSIR)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireplace-heater-vs-ventless/161059/4 "2010-10-02T23:07:42Z")
I have a blue flame heater similar to the one you are looking at for propane, I will sell it to ya if ya want for $150, its never used in the box just opened. ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireplace-heater-vs-ventless/161059/5 "2010-10-03T00:24:04Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > I’ve never had or experienced a ventless that didn’t make me sick. :word: I have to agree. I had a propane heater in my old garage with less than ideal insulation and it would make me sick/ choke me out to the point of opening that main door and venting the entire place just to reheat it. This is not something I recommend, ESPECIALLY if you have kids. ---
**Author:** ![deliverator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@deliverator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deliverator)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireplace-heater-vs-ventless/161059/6 "2010-10-03T00:31:15Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > I’ve never had or experienced a ventless that didn’t make me sick. +1. Horrible. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireplace-heater-vs-ventless/161059/7 "2010-10-03T07:12:21Z")
> [@Freek](#): > > :word: I have to agree. I had a propane heater in my old garage with less than ideal insulation and it would make me sick/ choke me out to the point of opening that main door and venting the entire place just to reheat it. > This is not something I recommend, ESPECIALLY if you have kids. +1 to this. The garage gets up to about 80 then I have to drop it to 45 just to breathe some fume free air and not puke. ---
**Author:** ![Hass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/51bf81/32.png) [@Hass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hass)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireplace-heater-vs-ventless/161059/8 "2010-10-03T07:43:14Z")
lol gotcha. when i used to use my parents garage all the time I used a ventless torpedo heater and I didn’t mind it at all, minus everything getting all wet. but i guess I forgot about the kitties too! I doubt they would enjoy it. thanks :o