# First Ban Drama. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 14, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692 "2008-02-14T20:45:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/61 "2008-02-16T20:13:13Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > i would also like to point out that nowhere in ANY of my posts did i use the word “nigger”… i sald black or african american to be politically correct. that is all haha ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/62 "2008-02-16T20:14:49Z")
> [@bennyfizzle](#): > > i know i know just go with the joke justin! > > fuck I know! fuck ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/63 "2008-02-16T20:18:05Z")
> [@Hooked on 240](#): > > iight this is ridculous, this IS a PUBLIC fourm, it shows just how mature cossey is, so he made a comment BIG deal, me and sean (91Teg) fight all time on here and get over it, cossey didnt have to go to that extreme to delete his account. 97 vr4 deleted his, and now hes back on after relizing that he took it wayy to personal. if you wanna fight take it to aim or something, not here Cossey deleting himself is not a mature response to any matter. I’m still in awe of people deleting themselves, or asking to be deleted? There is no difference between being deleted and just not coming back and posting. All your posts will still be there, you name will still be there, you just won’t be able to login, which you wouldn’t want to do since youre done with the community. If anything it hurts you later when you get over your anger and want to come back but now you have to get a new account. With that said, he deleted himself not because of Travis, but because of me, and my unbanning of Travis (EJ27XXX). I unbanned because Cossey banned him in the first place without properly going through the matter, he felt hot headed and deleted him from a _personal_ matter, which is indeed an abuse of the power. I completely stand behind the deletion of the racial comment, which should have been edited, but banning somebody over a typical argument **ONLINE** is silly. Cossey and travis have a long history of being dicks to each other, and now he over used the mod power to shut him and have the upper hand in an argument. The ban might have stayed if Cossey didn’t delete the comment and have let me read it or discussed the situation with me. Without me knowing what exactly happened, I couldn’t justify the ban. So by logic Cossey is the trigger that lead to his own deletion, by himself. > [@Kicklow](#): > > if you want to run a site like a fucking dictatorship and have everything passed by you for “acceptance” dont have mods in the first place If anybody would like to step down as a mod, I’m not keeping you, I take what I can get and if people don’t want to help it’s their choice. I started this thing alone, I’ll lead it alone wherever it needs to go. I have had two of my close friends doing little to no contribution, and now a third deleted himself, and fourth is just plain angry with my decisions. Cossey’s deletion of himself goes against helping me and my friendship, so if anything I should be mad at him. Running it by me dosn’t make it a dictatorship, it’s getting a second opinion, however in this case, Cossey became the Law, Judge, Jury and executor all at once without the proper “trial” of at least getting another opinion, and since that goes against every american way, it would and have caused drama, which **I** would have to clean up and act as PR person… to myself. Travis, post any racial comment that could offend a personal member and you’re on ban, this time by me. You could have used a better analogy, and that was asking for it. **One thing I do not tolerate is personal attacks on other members** and I’m letting everybody know that now, so there are no questions or hurt feelings later. If you don’t think you can have it under control, leave now, I gave you another chance because I thought it was just a slip up and things happen, don’t make me regret that. If any mods don’t want to participate in the position anymore or think I’m an idiot, let me know I’ll take the liability of your backs and demote you. If anybody thinks that this is BS leave now, and spare us the drama. I can’t keep everybody happy. ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/64 "2008-02-16T20:25:05Z")
instead of typing the personal attack on the boards do u mind if i say it to their face?.. certain people do piss me off and while i CAN contain it on the boards… i will REFUSE to step down in person. ive called a spade a spade from day one and it aint ending now… with this said… i respect vlads stance on this and as long as people dont go overboard with their reactions to my comments… ill try to remain as civil as possible ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/65 "2008-02-16T20:25:56Z")
hmmmmm ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/66 "2008-02-16T20:26:22Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > instead of typing the personal attack on the boards do u mind if i say it to their face?.. certain people do piss me off and while i CAN contain it on the boards… i will REFUSE to step down in person. ive called a spade a spade from day one and it aint ending now… with this said… i respect vlads stance on this and as long as people dont go overboard with their reactions to my comments… ill try to remain as civil as possible buddy put down the shovel, and back away from the keyboard ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/67 "2008-02-16T20:27:42Z")
> [@bennyfizzle](#): > > > [@EJ257FTW](#): > > > > instead of typing the personal attack on the boards do u mind if i say it to their face?.. certain people do piss me off and while i CAN contain it on the boards… i will REFUSE to step down in person. ive called a spade a spade from day one and it aint ending now… with this said… i respect vlads stance on this and as long as people dont go overboard with their reactions to my comments… ill try to remain as civil as possible > > buddy put down the shovel, and back away from the keyboard :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/68 "2008-02-16T20:28:43Z")
how does that statement mean im digging myself deeper… i said what was on my mind… benny you dont know me nor my personality… ive given several people here the benefit of the doubt and once u get to know me ud realize i dont have tact. i say whats on my mind like it or not. take it for what it is. brush it off and get the fuck over it. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/69 "2008-02-16T20:28:53Z")
If you want to call somebody out, feel free to do it in : PM’s, AIM, Personal, call him up, email him, send him an angry letter, I don’t give a f\*ck. Just don’t do it here. If you do it on a public board a personal matter between two people starts involving other people, and that’s just selfish, and frankly I don’t have time to deal with personal BS. ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/70 "2008-02-16T20:30:33Z")
im cool with that. :tong ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/71 "2008-02-16T20:30:53Z")
I think this thread should get locked and stored away, so everyone can calm down and go on about the forum normally. ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/72 "2008-02-16T20:32:05Z")
why, this IS the battlefield afterall. ---
**Author:** ![Code\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@Code\_Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Code_Blue)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/73 "2008-02-16T20:32:48Z")
why? it’s in the battlefield. the battlefield was created for just this reason… ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/74 "2008-02-16T20:33:40Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > how does that statement mean im digging myself deeper… i said what was on my mind… benny you dont know me nor my personality… ive given several people here the benefit of the doubt and once u get to know me ud realize i dont have tact. i say whats on my mind like it or not. take it for what it is. brush it off and get the fuck over it. right but yet again you were walking a fine line of a personal threat on a public forum ‘this say it to my face, yo’ attitude of yours doesnt go very far in presenting yourself as a rational, mature adult. get over yourself, and this is coming from a 20 yr old. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/75 "2008-02-16T20:33:45Z")
ok whatever, just a suggestion :🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/76 "2008-02-16T20:34:02Z")
odd… we both had the same thought process there…both wrecked 600rr’s within 2 weeks of each other… awww u really are a blood brother… :lol ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/77 "2008-02-16T20:34:14Z")
> [@K-20power](#): > > I think this thread should get locked and stored away, so everyone can calm down and go on about the forum normally. This is where people go to calm down and vent their frustration so they don’t have to do it on the rest of the forum :lol ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/78 "2008-02-16T20:34:58Z")
Time to chime in here: In defense of Vov, he is the prime moderator or seems to be to me. If he thinks something dosen’t belong, he will get rid of it. If it bothers you guys that much, go find another forum, no one is stopping you. I went through this same crap a short while ago. I let a forum get to me a little to much. Much the same many of you are now. From experience everyone here who is getting excited in their pants about this needs to chill the fuck out. He said this, he said that, who gives a fuck. If someone is so upset that they delete their account, much the same way I did, they will realize how much of a puss they are being and will be back. Actually im putting 5 bucks down that says hes back within the week. On another point, I think as a whole, we should all start to act a little more optomistic, it’s like a bunch of 13 year old girls with their first period, after finding out that their best friend slept with their boyfriend, in here. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/79 "2008-02-16T20:36:03Z")
It’s just growing pains, we’ll get over it if everybody can keep it calm/rational. ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692/80 "2008-02-16T20:37:52Z")
> [@bennyfizzle](#): > > right but yet again you were walking a fine line of a personal threat on a public forum ‘this say it to my face, yo’ attitude of yours doesnt go very far in presenting yourself as a rational, mature adult. get over yourself, and this is coming from a 20 yr old. i wasnt threatening anyone on the forum… id do that in person as i just agreed to. i just dont react well to threats or antagonism as im sure many of you dont. i just am a little more vocal about it until its time to swing. once i shut my mouth is when it gets bad… its like a pissed off dog… it will bark and bark and bark until u let it off the chain and it takes a huge bite out of someones ass. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-ban-drama/235692.md?page=5)