# first PA ticket **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 2, 2007, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-pa-ticket/193425 "2007-11-02T01:34:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 12
**Author:** ![JC\_Turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@JC\_Turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JC_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-pa-ticket/193425/12 "2007-11-02T14:03:20Z")
> [@Finally getting out of buffalo](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-getting-out-of-buffalo/33205/41): > > Go to court and try plea down to violation of Title 75, Paragraph 3361, Subsection A (failure to yield to a traffic control device), because, technically, a speed limit sign is a traffic control device, after all. > > IIRC 3361/A carries a money-only penalty (no points). 3111 is Obedience to traffic control devices = no points ,fine only 3361 is Driving vehicle at safe speed = possible points added for this section plus a fine. I doubt the D.J. give him 3111 for 23 mph over the speed limit. I bet the best they will do is let him plead guilty to 10 mph over which is reduced fines and points. Depends on the D.J. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-pa-ticket/193425)._