# First stateside 400hp 135i

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 27, 2008, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727 "2008-03-27T10:14:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/61 "2008-03-27T12:56:35Z")

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> [@sedlmeier101](#):
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> Because the average american believes that if they live anywhere that recieves more than an inch of snow they need awd. Get a good set of winter tires on a rwd car and you will be able to get anywhere.

Anywhere?  
How about a friendly wager?

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/62 "2008-03-27T13:25:34Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> that’s impressive and all… but at the end of the day around 350-380whp is the legit number most people will have on a daily basis with these mods.
> 
> claiming a solid 400whp daily is a reach

Not really with adding an intercooler and a properly sized biverter, a 10hp gain out of those two things can easily be had.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/63 "2008-03-27T13:37:51Z")

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close enough to be impressive to me… I’ll be watching these for reliability and how many other people get the same power numbers… might be my next daily driver.

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/64 "2008-03-27T13:40:41Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> close enough to be impressive to me… I’ll be watching these for reliability and how many other people get the same power numbers… might be my next daily driver.

Same here i think it would be a pimp daily. I don’t want to pay the new car price though so it looks like i will have to wait a year or so. Does BMW ever run 0% on new cars?

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/65 "2008-03-27T13:56:39Z")

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> [@camarojoe](#):
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> Not impressed with the body lines. To me it looks like a Hyundai.
> 
> But :tup: to 400hp

> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> Really? I think the Gensis Coupe looks much better than this.

front end looks great, rear end looks great. side profile looks TERRIBLE.

its cool that they are able to eek out substantial power with relatively few mods.

is there a boost limit to the stock ecu?

Brian

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/66 "2008-03-27T13:57:27Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> Anywhere?  
> How about a friendly wager?

6am my driveway and road after a good snow… not a chance.

Brian

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/67 "2008-03-27T13:58:50Z")

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Oddly enough I’m not really impressed.

Too much $$$ for the return.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/68 "2008-03-27T13:59:54Z")

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compared to…

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/69 "2008-03-27T14:05:33Z")

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> [@sedlmeier101](#):
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> Because the average american believes that if they live anywhere that recieves more than an inch of snow they need awd. Get a good set of winter tires on a rwd car and you will be able to get anywhere.

Didn’t you say in another thread that, because of your location, you absolutely needed AWD?

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> [@'08 impreza](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/08-impreza/44754/8):
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> I have a 4-door sedan 08’ wrx.
> 
> I personally love it. The styling grew on me big time… the wrx isn’t too great on gas compared to other compact cars (I average 22 this winter)  
> **Where I live, you need awd to get up my driveway…I also slid off into my uncles lawn which had a foot of snow and I plowed right through it.**  
> They didn’t have any specials for my car…but I got it for invoice.  
> The imprezas (2.5i) have sweet deals…like no money down and 200$ a month leases…and 0% financing ect ect.
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> Overall. For the money, you get a great motor and awd for under $20K

Good Luck with that in your rwd 6-cyl turbo car.

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/70 "2008-03-27T14:46:53Z")

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> Oddly enough I’m not really impressed.
> 
> Too much $$$ for the return.

ya, seriously, where are you getting 100 whp for less than $1500 invested?

If you are talking about the price of the car, I agree with you, its about $5k more than the price point it should be.

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**Author:** ![sbanzer123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@sbanzer123](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbanzer123)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/71 "2008-03-27T14:48:08Z")

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looks like a tiburon

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/72 "2008-03-27T15:36:43Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Didn’t you say in another thread that, because of your location, you absolutely needed AWD?
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> edit:
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> Good Luck with that in your rwd 6-cyl turbo car.

I’m talking the average, suburb living american.  
Yes, there are a few exceptions.

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**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/73 "2008-03-27T15:50:59Z")

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cool formula for a small(er) car for sure but after looking at those pictures I really don’t like how it looks. I think the price is a bit high as well, but its a bmw…

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**Author:** ![AFhockey31](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afhockey31/32/5086_2.png) [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/74 "2008-03-27T17:16:19Z")

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nice power… i liked them before i started seeing really high quality up close pictures… i cant get past the bottoms of the doors and the way it curves… reminds me of a small boat

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**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/75 "2008-03-27T18:22:08Z")

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There was a Grey one pulling out of UB last week… so hot.  
I’m really digging this car, I’ve been thinking about a BMW for some time now… this may motion me to move a bit quicker on selling current DD. I dk

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**Author:** ![EvoMR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evomr/32/7186_2.png) [@EvoMR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EvoMR)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/76 "2008-03-27T19:26:43Z")

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I was really excited for the 135 until I learned the curb weight and then saw one in person. I am glad I went with a different dd.

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**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/77 "2008-03-27T19:32:20Z")

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> [@EvoMR](#):
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> I was really excited for the 135 until I learned the curb weight and then saw one in person. I am glad I went with a different dd.

You might be right Sam, I really need to see one of these in person.

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**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/78 "2008-03-28T06:04:55Z")

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> [@jrod0187](#):
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> You might be right Sam, I really need to see one of these in person.

It didn’t do anything to swing me to the side of thinking it looked any better, I honestly still don’t know if I like the looks of this car??? It just makes me think that someone threw a 3 seris in the dryer and didn’t take it out in time. I’m sure a white one with a red interior and 19" LM’s would look pretty great. Then again, I drive a car that was styled 15 years ago.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/79 "2008-03-28T06:15:42Z")

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i saw a truck carrying 6-7 of these on the 401 the other day.

someone here said they would rather get $10k off on a 335i than a newish 135i… i agree…

but in 12 months the 135i will be $10k less.

i did not like the 135i at the autoshow, i sat in it, played around… it’s nice but i would also prefer the 3.

also, the Genesis coupe looks better than the 135i

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/first-stateside-400hp-135i/45727/80 "2008-03-28T14:19:51Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> also, the Genesis coupe looks better than the 135i

i agree on that point.

unfortunately, I have a feeling that the 135i has a chance at being faster than the genesis coupe stock for stock because of the torque even with the fact that its a fat lard. ill wait and see though.

Brian

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