# Flag burning ban shot down again.Can you guess how Hilary voted? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 27, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890 "2006-06-27T19:55:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/1 "2006-06-27T19:55:37Z")
I am shocked that this keeps getting voted down.Now I understand about free speech and all and accept/tolerate it in most degrees.We also pass laws to protect almost anyone from getting their feelings hurt over anything,But what about the millions of soldiers that fought for the flag and what it stands for?This has to be one huge slap in the face for them.Anyone can go out and prostest something,fine freedom of speech,But WTH do they have to burn a flag as well? Just one little pet peeve of mine.Kerry voted it’s ok too. D ---
**Author:** ![tnick24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@tnick24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tnick24)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/2 "2006-06-27T19:57:08Z")
died by one vote too. lame. ---
**Author:** ![jeeves744](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeeves744/32/7619_2.png) [@jeeves744](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeeves744)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/3 "2006-06-27T20:00:48Z")
while i think flag burning is retarded, i understand why they keep shooting it down. This would be the first step on a slippery slope. Take away one freedom and then whats next? ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/4 "2006-06-27T20:01:04Z")
> [@misteroman$$$](#): > > But what about the millions of soldiers that fought for the flag and what it stands for?This has to be one huge slap in the face for them.Anyone can go out and prostest something,fine freedom of speech,But WTH do they have to burn a flag as well? The flag stands for freedom. The freedom to express your views that do not cause harm to others. One of those freedoms is to burn that symbol. Why not arrest them for fire code violations? ---
**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/5 "2006-06-27T20:02:50Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > The flag stands for freedom. The freedom to express your views that do not cause harm to others. One of those freedoms is to burn that symbol. But if I go to work and make a racial slur I will be fired.Please explain that? D ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/6 "2006-06-27T20:03:52Z")
> [@misteroman$$$](#): > > But if I go to work and make a racial slur I will be fired.Please explain that? Because you are violating civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/7 "2006-06-27T20:05:22Z")
You choose to believe that the flag is a symbol. People don’t choose what race they are. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/8 "2006-06-27T20:07:38Z")
I believe you should be allowed to burn it, but at the same time I won’t feel bad for you at all if someone beats the shit out of you for doing it. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/9 "2006-06-27T20:10:57Z")
I can’t believe people need a symbol to stand for what they believe in, and they are so insecure in what they believe that they get bent out of shape when a bunch of dumbasses decides to waste their money and burn it. There was probably sales tax on that there flag. ---
**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/10 "2006-06-27T20:11:39Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I believe you should be allowed to burn it, but at the same time I won’t feel bad for you at all if someone beats the shit out of you for doing it. LOL:biglol: ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/11 "2006-06-27T20:12:00Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > I can’t believe people need a symbol to stand for what they believe in, and they are so insecure in what they believe that they get bent out of shape when a bunch of dumbasses decides to waste their money and burn it. There was probably sales tax on that there flag. agreed. ---
**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/12 "2006-06-27T20:18:41Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > Because you are violating civil rights. Wouldn’t violating a civil right be along the lines of not hiring or things like that? D ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/13 "2006-06-27T20:20:05Z")
> [@misteroman$$$](#): > > Wouldn’t violating a civil right be along the lines of not hiring or things like that? Yes, just like creating an unsafe work environment for employees that are a different race or sex than you is. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/14 "2006-06-27T20:45:19Z")
While I will never burn a flag (unless to disspose of a tattered one) I believe it should still be allowed as an extreme form of free speech. People died for what the flag stands for not for its physicality. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/15 "2006-06-27T21:05:29Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I believe you should be allowed to burn it, but at the same time I won’t feel bad for you at all if someone beats the shit out of you for doing it. Well said. On an aside: I noticed someone at the office wearing a set of sandals similar to these: ![http://www.hobotraveler.com/145kohphangan01/0028.JPG](http://www.hobotraveler.com/145kohphangan01/0028.JPG) This is a part of how she was “expressing her joy with regards to the 4th of July”. To me, that’s just fucking ignorance. Ignorance and free will, there is a HUGE difference. ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/16 "2006-06-27T21:06:57Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I believe you should be allowed to burn it, but at the same time I won’t feel bad for you at all if someone beats the shit out of you for doing it. :word: IB4 newman takes over thread with emo values ---
**Author:** ![adamantairman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@adamantairman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/adamantairman)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/17 "2006-06-27T21:18:20Z")
Doesn’t the VFW burn flags to get rid of them? If/when this passes that signifies a very stupid turning point for america. Soldiers don’t fight for a symbol, idiots do. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/18 "2006-06-27T21:34:29Z")
> [@adamantairman](#): > > Doesn’t the VFW burn flags to get rid of them? If/when this passes that signifies a very stupid turning point for america. Soldiers don’t fight for a symbol, idiots do. thats how Your supposed to retire tattered flags IIRC ---
**Author:** ![\_nails](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/58956e/32.png) [@\_nails](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_nails)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/19 "2006-06-27T21:45:10Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > I can’t believe people need a symbol to stand for what they believe in, and they are so insecure in what they believe that they get bent out of shape when a bunch of dumbasses decide to waste their money and burn it. There was probably sales tax on that there flag. exactly. ---
**Author:** ![95Z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/85e7bf/32.png) [@95Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95Z28)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/20 "2006-06-27T21:45:47Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > People died for what the flag stands for not for its physicality. :word: I’m not a huge crazy patriot or anything like that but if I ever saw anyone burning a flag in protest I would probably say something/punch them in the head. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890.md?page=2)