# Flash Memory Camcorders. Anyone have one? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 15, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804 "2008-12-15T22:34:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/1 "2008-12-15T22:34:00Z")
So I’m tossing around the idea of getting either a flash memory camcorder, or a hard drive one. The flash one that I want, the Panasonic S7, is down to $200 right now and I’m really thinking about getting one. Does anyone have a flash memory camcorder? How does the video quality stack up? The reason I’m leaning towards a flash one is due to the size. It would be nice to have something that won’t take up space when hiking/camping/traveling. Also great for up-the-skirt video when skunkape is least expecting it. Right now, I’m debating between that Panasonic, or a Sony DSC-SR45 HDD camcorder with a 30gb hard drive. The sony is $70 more, but has nightshot, the HD, but doesn’t have optical stabilization while the S7 does. Opinions/thoughts/comments/concerns/bacon? EDIT - After reading some reviews, the Canon FS100 is getting tossed into the mix. Seems to have superior video quality, but it’s $100 more than the S currently. ---
**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/2 "2008-12-15T23:05:22Z")
i don’t know. flash seems like it would be more pricey in the long run. i like my JVC everio 30 gb hdd camcorder. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/3 "2008-12-15T23:09:54Z")
Is it this years model? MG330 or something like that? We used to get a shitload of those returned, so I’m weary of that model. I think the HDD will certainly be more convenient as far as not having to switch cards and w/e else. But I just bought an 8gb Ultra 2 SD card for $25, they are coming down like whoa. What I am mainly concerned with, is the image quality. Although oddly enough, the Sony is 3x the size of the panasonic, but has a smaller image sensor. WTF is that. ---
**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/4 "2008-12-16T07:37:59Z")
> [@Dex](#): > > i don’t know. flash seems like it would be more pricey in the long run. i like my JVC everio 30 gb hdd camcorder. That’s the one I just picked up, so far so good. It’s a hybrid, so HDD and SDHC. Image stabilization isn’t great, but seems fine otherwise. What were they being returned for? ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/5 "2008-12-16T07:39:01Z")
I’m not entirely sure actually. I just remember that 1/3 of our stock was open box items from returns. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/6 "2008-12-16T07:39:16Z")
is it true that these can’t zoom except for digitally=fail? ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/7 "2008-12-16T07:41:23Z")
negative. S7 zooms 10x optically. ---
**Author:** ![BillysRevenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BillysRevenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BillysRevenge)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/8 "2008-12-16T09:21:20Z")
I was looking into getting a Canon HV20 camara. It’s a little pricey…around $500 but the quality is awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/9 "2008-12-16T09:22:30Z")
Yeah that’s an HD cam. I was looking at those, but out of my price range. ---
**Author:** ![BillysRevenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BillysRevenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BillysRevenge)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/10 "2008-12-16T09:57:23Z")
ah ok…I’ll ask my buddy. He is a film major and would probably know about these. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/11 "2008-12-17T07:36:52Z")
[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8696324&type=product&id=1198888712721](http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8696324&type=product&id=1198888712721) Ended up with this one anyway. For the price range, it seems to be the best bet. And that color matches my car. :mamoru: ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/12 "2008-12-17T07:39:24Z")
a positive of flash cards is the battery lasts way longer than the HDD ones… since it doesn’t have to power a disk drive. i’ve been shopping for a cam also, still not sure wtf to get. ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/13 "2008-12-17T07:40:09Z")
paulo…im considering the FlipUltra…its cheap and plugs directly into comp…seems like itll be easy for tkaing a quick vid and loading online. ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/14 "2008-12-17T07:42:09Z")
> [@chino](#): > > a positive of flash cards is the battery lasts way longer than the HDD ones… since it doesn’t have to power a disk drive. > > i’ve been shopping for a cam also, still not sure wtf to get. > **[CNET: Product reviews, advice, how-tos and the latest news](https://www.cnet.com/)** > > Get full-length product reviews, the latest news, tech coverage, daily deals, and category deep dives from CNET experts worldwide. I’m gonna pick it up after xmas to produce softcore azn porn. seriously though, get this one. ---
**Author:** ![BillysRevenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BillysRevenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BillysRevenge)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/15 "2008-12-17T10:01:12Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > Yeah that’s an HD cam. I was looking at those, **but out of my price range.** too much money ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/16 "2008-12-17T10:08:13Z")
wat ---
**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/17 "2008-12-17T11:26:13Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > [http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8696324&type=product&id=1198888712721](http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8696324&type=product&id=1198888712721) > > Ended up with this one anyway. For the price range, it seems to be the best bet. And that color matches my car. :mamoru: That’s the same one I got on Black Friday, but in the blue :gay2: Easy to use, already put a bunch of movies on my computer and I’m pretty much retarded when it comes to stuff like that. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/18 "2008-12-17T11:29:14Z")
Hows the video quality? And how much was it on BF? ---
**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flash-memory-camcorders-anyone-have-one/59804/19 "2008-12-17T13:07:58Z")
Video quality is fine. It’s not HD, but I didn’t pay for HD either. Watching it on my 47" TV I don’t think it’s any worse than standard broadcast stuff. I paid $299 for the camera plus $50 for a case/battery bundle.