# FML v.need a furnace

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [August 28, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763 "2009-08-28T12:32:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/21 "2009-08-28T14:09:16Z")

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When you get done testing your furnace I want you to compare it to the levels in cigarette smoke.

😉

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**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/22 "2009-08-28T14:49:24Z")

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Just for shits I was doing some research on it and found out a wood burning stove is more dangerous than just about everything except for cigarette smoke. The levels of CO in cigarette smoke blew me away so I’m really curious what your readings will be.

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/23 "2009-08-28T15:05:38Z")

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> [@drvnkd"](#):
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> OK… I like to DIY my way into breaking expensive things.

Truth.

splurge now and get AC. Its more expensive to upgrade later. even if you dont tell the wife and dont use it for a while its good to have. +house resale value too

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**Author:** ![gonzo891](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonzo891/32/5250_2.png) [@gonzo891](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gonzo891)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/24 "2009-08-28T15:59:18Z")

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i have been working for a heating and cooling company for 6 years now. if you have the furnace i would do a replacement for 400$ if you dont have the furnace its 400$ plus parts shoot me PM or call my cell 570-2139 and cracked heat exchangers are very common.

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**Author:** ![gonzo891](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonzo891/32/5250_2.png) [@gonzo891](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gonzo891)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/25 "2009-08-28T16:07:05Z")

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> [@drvnkd"](#):
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> For the moment, I’m looking for a non central air replacement as I have a budget of about $0.

sorry just read that. good luck

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**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/26 "2009-08-28T16:51:28Z")

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> [@gonzo891](#):
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> sorry just read that. good luck

LOL

I need an air return run to my upstairs. Downstairs stays cool, upstairs gets shit for air and is hot. You do that as side work also?

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**Author:** ![gonzo891](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonzo891/32/5250_2.png) [@gonzo891](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gonzo891)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/27 "2009-08-28T17:18:19Z")

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i do everything in the heating and cooling world. as for a cold air return upstairs thats rather tricky if your house is older and is ballon construction its easier. but if its a newer home with out ferring out walls amd such its very hard. or you could put a monster return at the base of the stairs and pull air down the stair well. it all depends on what you have pm me if you’d like

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**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/28 "2009-08-28T18:55:34Z")

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You can buy a name brand furnace on ebay, a new one, and have it freighted to your house.

Let the pro put it in for 400 bucks or whatever…

You can get a good furnace for around 1k

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/29 "2009-08-28T20:59:24Z")

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i thought u needed to be a contracter to buy a furnace?

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**Author:** ![gonzo891](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonzo891/32/5250_2.png) [@gonzo891](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gonzo891)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/30 "2009-08-29T00:52:27Z")

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i am a contracter, also gas tight certified and EPA certified (means i can buy and work with refrigerant) just FYI

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/31 "2009-08-29T06:30:42Z")

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> [@gonzo891](#):
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> i am a contracter, also gas tight certified and EPA certified (means i can buy and work with refrigerant) just FYI

is my statement correct though?

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**Author:** ![gonzo891](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonzo891/32/5250_2.png) [@gonzo891](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gonzo891)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/32 "2009-08-29T07:04:33Z")

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no any joe can go in and buy one you just need to know where to go

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/33 "2009-08-31T06:22:11Z")

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So… my exhaust has a nice POS thermal baffle thing opens a minute or so after the burners light… (I’ll replace that eventually too.)

I put my fancy monitor near the vent for that minute as it has no place else to go and just fills the basement… and guess what… 0ppm of CO, and 20.6% O2(down from 20.9%).  
I also stuck it into an open register… 0ppm CO. If I breath to wards the monitor, it goes crazy because the O2 drops below 19.5%…

The guy is supposed to come back next week to sell… Err show me the problem.  
I hope he can explain how a heat exchanger under slightly positive pressure will  
start filling with exhaust fumes. I also want to know why he cut a hole in my duct to spray the HX with water… (I’d imagine it was to highlight a leak)

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/34 "2009-08-31T07:24:23Z")

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Yes… they can see freon leaks from A/c with certain chemicals, they can see bubbles from soap, and sometimes they have reactants to highlight leaky points.

good luck.

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/35 "2009-08-31T07:36:07Z")

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i have a crack in my oil furnace heat exchanger… its more noticeable with oil as you get a puff of fumes when the blower first kicks on. furnace work is not hard if you are mechanically inclined. i do all my own work and have saved ~2000$ in repairs and cleanings over 7 years.

dunno what im going to do about the crack though. probably put in a used thermopride oil furnace. found one for 100$ that needs a little work.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Southtowns27](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/southtowns27/32/5002_2.png) [@Southtowns27](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Southtowns27)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/36 "2009-08-31T07:39:58Z")

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Take furnace apart  
Find someone to weld heat exchanger  
???  
Profit

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/37 "2009-08-31T08:46:01Z")

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I will Buy CO monitors for the rooms. If I can put it off for a while, I would rather get central air at the same time.

I do have lots of flaky white crap near the exhaust vent… I wonder where that mess comes from?

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**Author:** ![Maksim2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Maksim2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maksim2000)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/38 "2009-08-31T09:00:17Z")

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[quote=“drvnkd,post:37,topic:72763"”]

I do have lots of flaky white crap near the exhaust vent… I wonder where that mess comes from?

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Water leaking down the chimney?

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/39 "2009-08-31T09:06:03Z")

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I’m sure that it had been at some point…  
Its was lined before I bought the place in '04.

The basement also had a tone of leaking cracks… so it was really damp back then as well.  
(like constant puddles on the floor in the rain kind of damp)

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-v-need-a-furnace/72763/40 "2009-08-31T10:07:43Z")

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> [@Southtowns27](#):
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> Take furnace apart  
> Find someone to weld heat exchanger  
> ???  
> Profit

i think there are some certain legalities issues with that… but im not 100% sure.

at least the local furnace place near me said that it wasnt legal to weld them… or the insurance company wouldnt pay if it burned down or something like that.

Brian

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