# FML -vs- Grand Jury duty

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [July 8, 2009, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249 "2009-07-08T12:17:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/21 "2009-07-08T13:16:32Z")

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Your work isn’t paying you your usual $? Most places do

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**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/22 "2009-07-08T13:22:40Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> Your work isn’t paying you your usual $? Most places do

They only cover $40/day for 3 days…fucking bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/23 "2009-07-08T13:29:00Z")

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ewwy

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/24 "2009-07-08T13:34:35Z")

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yeah, that sucks… I got covered 100%

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/25 "2009-07-08T13:42:36Z")

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On it right now!!!

Session 7B…

1st day… 120ish people in a court room; people with excuses go talk with the judge. He decides if your excuse is good enough to be excused. The remaining people are put into a “lottery” and names are drawn until 46 people are selected; 2 groups of 23.

Those groups meet 3 times a week starting at 9:15 am till mid afternoon with at least an hour lunch.

It’s listening to the ADAs present evidence to charge for ANY and ALL Felonys. Not convicting or aquitting anyone.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/26 "2009-07-08T13:51:58Z")

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> [@ShiftDead](#):
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> They only cover $40/day for 3 days…fucking bullshit.

Write them a letter, with your budget and how much this is going to end up costing you, and claim financial hardship. MANY people get out of jury duty on legitimate financial hardship claims. It should actually be easier to argue financial hardship for a grand jury than a regular jury since it’s a month not a week.

> **[404 ERROR - N.Y. State Courts](https://www.nycourts.gov/9jd/westchester/jury/grand_juror.html)**
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> The official home page of the New York State Unified Court System. We hear more than three million cases a year involving almost every type of endeavor. We hear family matters, personal injury claims, commercial disputes, trust and estates issues,...

> **[Wwwnolocom Where can I get samples of hardship letters for jury duty? - Answers](https://www.answers.com/Q/Wwwnolocom_Where_can_I_get_samples_of_hardship_letters_for_jury_duty)**
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> http://www.isampleletter.com/example/266/ (Date)
> \[NAME AND ADDRESS, ex.
> ZIP POST CODE\]
> Dear \[NAME\],
> I am in receipt of your letter of \[DATE, ex. June 10, 1998\].
> Although I am honored by the privilege, I respectfully request that
> I be excused from...

EDIT: If you can’t prove this is a real financial hardship, don’t try it. NY is going to want proof.

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/27 "2009-07-08T14:08:45Z")

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ugh, I am jealous. I want to participate in Jury Duty so bad.

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**Author:** ![airhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/airhead/32/7471_2.png) [@airhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/airhead)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/28 "2009-07-08T16:05:23Z")

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Although it doesn’t apply to the OP, owning/running your own business by yourself will get you out. I just had to write them a letter claiming financial hardship, etc, and they left me alone.

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/29 "2009-07-09T14:18:34Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Write them a letter, with your budget and how much this is going to end up costing you, and claim financial hardship. MANY people get out of jury duty on legitimate financial hardship claims. It should actually be easier to argue financial hardship for a grand jury than a regular jury since it’s a month not a week.
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> [http://www.courts.state.ny.us/9jd/westchester/jury/grand\_juror.html](http://www.courts.state.ny.us/9jd/westchester/jury/grand_juror.html)
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> [Wwwnolocom Where can I get samples of hardship letters for jury duty? - Answers](http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Wwwnolocom_Where_can_I_get_samples_of_hardship_letters_for_jury_duty)
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> EDIT: If you can’t prove this is a real financial hardship, don’t try it. NY is going to want proof.

You’d be suprised how many people got out just tellin the judge that they couldn’t afford it… no proof needed other than word of mouth if you show up the 1st day.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/30 "2009-07-09T22:13:30Z")

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Just play completely biased, white trash, dress in a wife beater, stained of course. I heard it works when you get questioned about your background and shit.

“Send the \*(&^$% to jail. We wouldn’t be here if there wasn’t some truth to the claim, and he wouldn’t be here if it weren’t true, some other sap would!”

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/31 "2009-07-09T22:19:01Z")

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In regards to the thread title, FML easily defeats grand jury duty duty in any imaginable contest where they would be faced vs. each other.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/32 "2009-07-10T07:09:39Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> In regards to the thread title, FML easily defeats grand jury duty duty in any imaginable contest where they would be faced vs. each other.

Agreed

> [@theblue](#):
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> this is one of your most important duties as a citizen.
> 
> yeah, it’s not fun, but rational people are needed… imagine if you had a family member on trial, wouldn’t you want somebody like you taking part in the process.

Agreed

It is just unfortunate that jury duty has turned into a “fuck my life” rather then a “oh cool, this should be interesting”.

One thing I truly fear is being place in court in front of a jury of my peers, because I know 90% of them will be dumb asses.

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**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/33 "2009-07-10T07:26:10Z")

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> It is just unfortunate that jury duty has turned into a “fuck my life” rather then a “oh cool, this should be interesting”.

I have served the community enough in my life, Jury Duty can “suck on muh ball sack”.

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**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/34 "2009-07-10T07:31:38Z")

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I served on a grand jury last fall.

It did last 3 weeks.

It was 3 days/week.

Parking was only 3 bucks/day at Adam’s Mark and I still received my normal salary.

We were out early almost every day, so it wasn’t too bad.

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> 90% of them will be dumb asses.

It BLEW MY MIND how stupid the people in my jury were. They could not grasp the concept that we were not proving innocence/guilt, but rather whether or not the case had enough evidence to go to trial.

They acutally let a guilty rapist go because of this.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/35 "2009-07-10T07:44:00Z")

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> One thing I truly fear is being place in court in front of a jury of my peers, because I know 90% of them will be dumb asses.

It’s your right to have a non-jury trial.

Generally, my thinking has always been if I was guilty I’d go with the jury trial, because it’s easier to convince one or two idiots in a group of 12 that your lie is true.

If I was innocent and had the facts on my side, trial by judge. It worked for the Wilson coaches.

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/36 "2009-07-10T08:27:07Z")

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> [@Geoff](#):
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> I served on a grand jury last fall.
> 
> It did last 3 weeks.
> 
> It was 3 days/week.
> 
> Parking was only 3 bucks/day at Adam’s Mark and I still received my normal salary.
> 
> We were out early almost every day, so it wasn’t too bad.
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> Edit:
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> It BLEW MY MIND how stupid the people in my jury were. They could not grasp the concept that we were not proving innocence/guilt, but rather whether or not the case had enough evidence to go to trial.
> 
> They acutally let a guilty rapist go because of this.

Yup… I’ve got 3 out of 23 that are NIGHTMARES to deal with… I’ve gotten into screaming arguements with 1 of them on multiple occasions because he’s just dumb… We’ve got 2 that do nothing but make dumbass comments constantly, and when they’re not doing that they’re sleeping/snoring in the courtroom!!!

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/37 "2009-07-10T10:24:18Z")

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I wrote a letter telling them that this would cause a hardship on my company in this economic climate, had my boss sign it and was excused.

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**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/38 "2009-07-20T09:10:54Z")

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Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I got got. Go me!

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/39 "2009-07-20T09:12:13Z")

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> [@ShiftDead](#):
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> Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I got got. Go me!

YOU GOT GOT??? CONGRATS!

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fml-vs-grand-jury-duty/70249/40 "2009-07-20T09:12:56Z")

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ahaha i got got it also!!!

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