# for future reference: please list all people who were positive the plane wouldnt fly **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 31, 2008, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-future-reference-please-list-all-people-who-were-positive-the-plane-wouldnt-fly/42739 "2008-01-31T13:42:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 8
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-future-reference-please-list-all-people-who-were-positive-the-plane-wouldnt-fly/42739/8 "2008-01-31T16:35:06Z")
> [@TgDn32](#): > > Seriously, can’t this be dropped? > > It flew, big whoop. > [@nappy1380](#): > > +1 It can not be dropped, we need to announce who is a dumb ass for future reference on a side note did anyone go back and see Jrod changed all of his posts in [http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39105](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39105) gay, because you can see his real responses in other peoples quotes. > [@Mythbusters - Anyone see something that will stop 6000 page threads?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mythbusters-anyone-see-something-that-will-stop-6000-page-threads/37377/13): > > I say the plane will NOT take off, insufficient airflow over the wings to generate lift. I also say they do a closeup shot of Kari’s ass or chest at least 3 times during the show. > [@Mythbusters - Anyone see something that will stop 6000 page threads?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mythbusters-anyone-see-something-that-will-stop-6000-page-threads/37377/55): > > The plane will not take off. It’s physics people… It’s not a rocket. Flight is generated by lift on the wing. > [@Mythbusters - Anyone see something that will stop 6000 page threads?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mythbusters-anyone-see-something-that-will-stop-6000-page-threads/37377/140): > > So people on this forum cannot have a different opinion then others without being a tool or an idiot because they do not concur with the majority of others? > Different opinions and ideas are what makes us all different. > Everyone is entitled to their own ideas and theories. > The plane my perhaps take off. > Perhaps it won’t. > Only way to know for certain is for the experiment to be tried and tested. > [@Mythbusters - Anyone see something that will stop 6000 page threads?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mythbusters-anyone-see-something-that-will-stop-6000-page-threads/37377/209): > > ive read the first thread, prob posted in it, and i cant recall if i said it would or it wouldnt. > > ive read ~half of this thread, and still dont have a concrete opinion. > > physics and math is NOT my thing by ANY MEANS. > > but, i have a question… If the plane, in theory according to some of you, will take off, then why do planes need wings to fly? the way im understanding it (and correct me if im wrong) is that a plane needs air moving over the wings to create lift. SO, to the people saying that it will take off, shouldnt a plane be able to fly without wings according to your theory? and if the treadmill is going “backwards” to counteract the plane going forwards, how would the wheels of the plane spin without some kind of opposite force pushing the plane the opposite way as the treadmill is going? wouldnt the treadmill just move the whole plane backwards? > > i know i should refer to Fry’s sig before posting, but i honestly dont really understand this so someone feel free to explain it to me and tell me im completely wrong, because i really would like to understand it lol > [@Mythbusters - Anyone see something that will stop 6000 page threads?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mythbusters-anyone-see-something-that-will-stop-6000-page-threads/37377/219): > > eh ill post in both threads just to spark more conversation but if you go to the gym and run on a treadmill I dont feel the wind pass over me like I do running outside. Hence, the plane will NOT take off because my model was perfect. /thread > [@Mythbusters - Anyone see something that will stop 6000 page threads?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mythbusters-anyone-see-something-that-will-stop-6000-page-threads/37377/251): > > this is my point tho. car standing still means that conveyor belt speed and wheel speed are the same. so in THEORY, if the treamill can match the wheel speed INSTANTANEOUSLY(which is more or less impossible) the plane would have a very difficult time moving in the forward direction. > [@Mythbusters - Anyone see something that will stop 6000 page threads?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mythbusters-anyone-see-something-that-will-stop-6000-page-threads/37377/286): > > the only reason the plane would continue to go in a forward even if landing on a treadmill that is going the opposite way… is because of its momentum it had from flying through the air. > > if you dropped a plane directly onto a moving treadmill from above, which direction would it go? obviously in the direction of the treadmill. > > i’m not arguing the subject either way there, just touching on your point. > > now onto the subject, let’s go backwards for shits and giggles. let’s turn the treadmill on first. say a plane is sitting on the giant treadmill, engines are off. the treadmill starts up, the plane starts moving backward, at 50 mph. the plane’s engines are started, but just set to exert the right amount of thrust to DIRECTLY combat the 50 mph of treadmill speed… what happens? the plane doesnt go anywhere, and the wheels spin in place. right? > > 50 mph treadmill backwards plus only 25 mph of thrust will still make the plane go backwards… > > it’s the same if you’re holding the toy plane with a string… the faster the treadmill is going, the more force you have to hold onto the string with, else the plane goes backwards. if you pull forward on the string more, it will go forward, if you lessen the force, it will pull backwards. > > so, IN THEORY, IFthe treadmill could ALWAYS exactly match the same force as exerted by the plane’s engines, wouldn’t the plane be stationary and not be able to lift off? > > am i completely wrong? flame away if so. either way at least this is making the work day go by… lol --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-future-reference-please-list-all-people-who-were-positive-the-plane-wouldnt-fly/42739)._