# For the younger members....

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [February 1, 2008, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852 "2008-02-01T08:26:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Canadian\_Idol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Canadian\_Idol](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Canadian_Idol)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/41 "2008-02-02T08:22:45Z")

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3500? No its 4012lbs. add on 5 bodies and its almost 5000.

Car is limited to 155mph but I know the E60 M5 will do 194mph at least with the Active Autowerks reflash.

Either way too much car for a kid.

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**Author:** ![IRo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iro/32/5564_2.png) [@IRo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IRo)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/42 "2008-02-02T10:44:57Z")

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The title pisses me off, that is some age discrimination bull, acting like older people never push the pedal.  
It’s people like you that allow these retarded over powered laws to come into effect.

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**Author:** ![draggone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@draggone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/draggone)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/43 "2008-02-02T10:56:00Z")

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^^^^ you have a point.

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**Author:** ![OneEightZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c6cbf5/32.png) [@OneEightZero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OneEightZero)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/44 "2008-02-02T20:24:43Z")

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I know adults that have more of a craving to mash the peddle then younger drivers…

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/45 "2008-02-02T22:05:50Z")

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[quote=“Fobwall,post:10,topic:15772"”]

Was it really an M5 or was it an Mtree?

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That was probably the most failure attempt of a joke I have ever heard..

That being said boo hoo the kid was a retard who did some stupid shit. It sucks he killed 4 of his best friends but i dont think every 18 year old is stupid enough to go on a 1.5 mile long or whatever run way at night and not think that something might go wrong. The guy was a idiot and he died. It is sad but shit like this happens all the time and the only reason this is big news is because of his age.

He is at fault not his parents because anyone with half a brain has common fucking sense not to do retarded shit like that.

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**Author:** ![alesserfate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@alesserfate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/alesserfate)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/46 "2008-02-02T22:10:09Z")

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> [@Ever thought you were fucked up?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ever-thought-you-were-fucked-up/15691/21):
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> Before you read through the following, stop and think. Think about what your friends and family would do if you were suddenly gone. No you may not drive an M5, and you’re probably thinking you’ve heard of people walking away from crashes. The reality is you’re not indestructible, and neither are the people around you.
> 
> As one of the older members of the board, I can say yeah…I’ve done some STUPID shit. I’ve been there, and not given crashing a second thought, but the fact is you can die going 30, you can die going 200, and anywhere in between. Do you really wanna put your family and friends through that?
> 
> No to mention the potential of an innocent bystander, or your passengers like in this case.
> 
> Here’s the story and the slideshow; not because I have some weird morbid fixation, but so you guys can see what you’ll look like next time you put your foot down.
> 
> the story:  
> [http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124526](http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124526)
> 
> the slideshow:  
> [http://www.ocala.com/assets/slidesho...one/index.html](http://www.ocala.com/assets/slidesho...one/index.html)
> 
> the thread on M5board:  
> [http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho](http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho)…=111454&page=2

I think your about as smart as the guy who crashed this M5 by addressing this post to younger members, as I am sure there are some members on here who are younger than you and probably realized this while you were at “I’ve done some STUPID shit.” part of your life and they didnt even have their licenses yet.

I agree with you that you can die anywhere going from 30 to whatever, but saying that all young people drive dangerous, is like saying all car enthusiasts street race.

Peace.

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**Author:** ![kollo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kollo/32/5661_2.png) [@kollo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kollo)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/47 "2008-02-02T22:11:05Z")

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sad story but even then my stock 155hp 240 could do the same thing with enough speed every one just take it E.Z. out there

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**Author:** ![reconJDM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reconjdm/32/5510_2.png) [@reconJDM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reconJDM)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/48 "2008-02-02T22:28:22Z")

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atleast buddy did not do it on public road.

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**Author:** ![draggone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@draggone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/draggone)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/49 "2008-02-02T23:53:10Z")

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I wish we had an air strip we can go to in Toronto!!!

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**Author:** ![240SXtacy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/240sxtacy/32/5549_2.png) [@240SXtacy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240SXtacy)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/50 "2008-02-03T04:23:39Z")

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this hits close to home… last year someone i know died in a similar way. going high speeds north of stoufville near sutton over a hill lost control and hit a tree in the middle of the night… his honda fit turned into nothing but a tin can.  
he took his and his friends life.  
sad to say some people -often young- pay the price for being reckless.  
shit happens

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**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/51 "2008-02-03T09:11:25Z")

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> [@My rant on motorcyclists](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-rant-on-motorcyclists/15698/35):
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> I think your about as smart as the guy who crashed this M5 by addressing this post to younger members, as I am sure there are some members on here who are younger than you and probably realized this while you were at “I’ve done some STUPID shit.” part of your life and they didnt even have their licenses yet.
> 
> I agree with you that you can die anywhere going from 30 to whatever, but saying that all young people drive dangerous, is like saying all car enthusiasts street race.
> 
> Peace.

It’s pretty obvious that not all young people do that, but any of the older guys know that they did a lot stupider shit when they were younger than they do now. I personally think that all of these young people that say how mature and responsible they are, are just like M5 kid, because that’s EXACTLY what he was saying.

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**Author:** ![Boost213](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost213/32/5677_2.png) [@Boost213](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost213)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/52 "2008-02-03T10:42:09Z")

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alright you know its sad that a young guy got killed because he was showboating. but it bothers me that you all say 18 this and 18 that. his age has nothing to do wth it. you could be a 30 yr old who has never sat behind the wheel of a 50 horse car and still screw up. and just because someone is 18 doesnot mean that they cant handle high horsepower cars. my friend and i take out bhis dads viper and sl65 all the time. and we have never had one inicdent. have never been pulled over for speeding. and we have done that before. but we are totally safe. not a scratch on us or the car. so drop the age thing. because if anyone here had the chance to get behind the wheel o a powerhouse like the dodge viper im pretty sure they wouldnt be able to control it to well on their first lap around the block.

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**Author:** ![Canadian\_Idol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Canadian\_Idol](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Canadian_Idol)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/53 "2008-02-03T11:38:59Z")

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> [@jeeves vs. firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeeves-vs-firehawk853/15610/167):
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> I wish we had an air strip we can go to in Toronto!!!

We do. Downsview you can get in there easy.

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**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/54 "2008-02-03T15:28:11Z")

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> [@Skunks New Cell Phone](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/skunks-new-cell-phone/15785/4):
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> alright you know its sad that a young guy got killed because he was showboating. but it bothers me that you all say 18 this and 18 that. his age has nothing to do wth it. you could be a 30 yr old who has never sat behind the wheel of a 50 horse car and still screw up. and just because someone is 18 doesnot mean that they cant handle high horsepower cars. my friend and i take out bhis dads viper and sl65 all the time. and we have never had one inicdent. have never been pulled over for speeding. and we have done that before. but we are totally safe. not a scratch on us or the car. so drop the age thing. because if anyone here had the chance to get behind the wheel o a powerhouse like the dodge viper im pretty sure they wouldnt be able to control it to well on their first lap around the block.

It doesn’t matter that you’ve never had an accident in it, that proves nothing.  
The fact is, as a young person, your maturity level is just not the same. You can tell me that you’re an exception to the rule until you’re blue in the face, but you keep forgetting that those were the EXACT same words that kid was saying before he DIED and took 3 ppl down with him.

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**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/55 "2008-02-03T17:01:10Z")

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go ahead and do as much dumbass shit as you want to. dont do it where other ppl can get hurt. if you wana risk your life because u know your car than fine do it but dont take ur buddys with you.

i think everyone knows that shit happens like that. hell i was doing circles on the 407 on friday going 60k just cause i hit ice on my way to work.

dont be an idiot and youll be fine, basicaly

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**Author:** ![Cal-SoY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Cal-SoY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal-SoY)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/56 "2008-02-05T23:36:37Z")

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There are a couple of SON’lings on here with cars that dont even have a liscense yet, but 16 or 40 (however old the oldest member here is) this could happen to any one maturity isnt a substitute for experience as many take it for.

Also, imagine what would happen to a 240 considering how structurally sound an m5 is in comparison.

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**Author:** ![RED\_LINE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/red_line/32/5656_2.png) [@RED\_LINE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RED_LINE)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/57 "2008-02-06T09:46:53Z")

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^I think the polyurethane bumpers would make up quite a bit for  
the rest of the metals in some cases of impact…  
I mean you gotta admit bro, that material is gold for  
impacts, but not all tho.

but still, when we get too out of hand we don’t know from our actions,  
the consequences till it’s too late… ☹

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**Author:** ![Multisynclg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/multisynclg/32/5328_2.png) [@Multisynclg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Multisynclg)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/58 "2008-02-06T10:04:23Z")

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do you guys remember Chris cambell?

Took his dad’s AMG s55 out during after hours.  
16 years old, went 110km down a 20km zone.  
hit a tree less than 2km from his driveway  
car exploded on impact.

I believe mercedez actually sent the family another vehicle to make up for the loss of the son/last car.

and i dont think his parents were held responsible.

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**Author:** ![Multisynclg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/multisynclg/32/5328_2.png) [@Multisynclg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Multisynclg)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/59 "2008-02-06T10:05:45Z")

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> [@Skunks New Cell Phone](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/skunks-new-cell-phone/15785/13):
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> go ahead and do as much dumbass shit as you want to. dont do it where other ppl can get hurt. if you wana risk your life because u know your car than fine do it but dont take ur buddys with you.
> 
> i think everyone knows that shit happens like that. hell i was doing circles on the 407 on friday going 60k just cause i hit ice on my way to work.
> 
> dont be an idiot and youll be fine, basicaly

do you have winter tires?

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**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-the-younger-members/112852/60 "2008-02-06T10:05:47Z")

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you can’t hold parents responsible if the kid took the car w/o permission

are they supposed lock their car keys in a safe? comonn…

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