# For those who care: Why USA overall competitiveness is decreasing **URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-those-who-care-why-usa-overall-competitiveness-is-decreasing/261715 **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic **Created:** [December 11, 2011, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-those-who-care-why-usa-overall-competitiveness-is-decreasing/261715 "2011-12-11T10:18:04Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 8
### Author: ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91) #### Post date: [December 11, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-those-who-care-why-usa-overall-competitiveness-is-decreasing/261715/8 "2011-12-11T14:53:56Z")
> [@Getting Close](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-close/47175/23): > > Second rate or not we need somebody doing them. > > Too many thinkers and not enough doers gets the country sitting and thinking how shitty it is instead of doing something about it. > > How are you going to outsource infrastructure and construction jobs again? > > By the time a union guy graduates instead of going into debt for 4 years in a college for a major that is either saturated or hires for $50k a year at best, they will have money in the bank with similar pay instead of being in debt, with job security. I agree with you we do need them. We shouldn’t be spending tax payer money on helping the student loan program, let the private sector loan them money. We should stop funding college for any tom dick or harry that want a college education. A lot of state money goes into that when it could be cut from taxes, helping the economy so people can actually hire the real college graduates. The biggest problem with education in America are the parents. 100%. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-those-who-care-why-usa-overall-competitiveness-is-decreasing/261715)._