# For your anti-walmart people

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [November 24, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700 "2008-11-24T13:38:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/41 "2008-11-25T07:21:30Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Understatement of the year.  
> Working in Springville sometimes I have to go there because they are the only game in town now(imagine that). After I go there, I go home and cry in the shower.

LOL… next time i see you in there im going to take a pic of it and post it

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/42 "2008-11-25T07:26:40Z")

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> [@justa4door](#):
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> LOL… next time i see you in there im going to take a pic of it and post it

:bigclap: :lol:

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**Author:** ![RLB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rlb/32/5196_2.png) [@RLB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RLB)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/43 "2008-11-25T07:37:26Z")

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The donation is a nice gesture but still doesn’t change the fact that they destroy area small businesses.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/44 "2008-11-25T07:38:49Z")

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> [@justa4door](#):
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> LOL… next time i see you in there im going to take a pic of it and post it

You don’t know me. Stalker.:snky:

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**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/45 "2008-11-25T07:42:06Z")

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lol tell me how many audi are parked in the parking lot next time you go and tell me i would not be able to find you and get a pic walking out

:winkyface:

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/46 "2008-11-25T07:56:05Z")

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You would be surprised at the number of 6 speed(limited production for USA) silver ALLROADS with Ron Paul stickers there are in Springville. I blend. lol

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/47 "2008-11-25T08:04:10Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Upwards of 80% of our economy is consumer driven.:uhh:

My sentiments for the last ~7 years.

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**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/48 "2008-11-25T08:06:47Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> You would be surprised at the number of 6 speed(limited production for USA) silver ALLROADS with Ron Paul stickers there are in Springville. I blend. lol

Ha … yea it should blend

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/49 "2008-11-25T08:15:32Z")

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I still don’t see how its a social responsibility to pay higher prices at a local store for something becuase the owner can pat you on the ass on the way out, esp when its the same product.

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**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/50 "2008-11-25T08:21:29Z")

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Walmart will make me smile even more if they sell their made-in-China stuffs for whatever the cost of production, plus shipping costs and some margin of profit for their own.

Well, that should make a pair of jeans costs around $5. NOT $20!!! damn greedy biotch!!

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**Author:** ![Djs87](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djs87/32/5132_2.png) [@Djs87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Djs87)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/51 "2008-11-25T08:49:12Z")

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> [@justa4door](#):
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> LOL… next time i see you in there im going to take a pic of it and post it

Why would you post pictures of nyspeed members showering?

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/52 "2008-11-25T08:57:08Z")

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> [@Coldaccord](#):
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> Jesus christ people are stupid.
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> Hits-home example; Watkins Glen, NY.
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> Here is a small town. A main street filled with mom and pop stores. Not too many years ago, Wal-Mart moved in about 2 minutes off the main drag. Since then, 2 auto parts stores, the big (and only) hardware store, a shitload of clothing stores, hobby shops, and more have gone out of business. Why? Because Wal-Mart has shit cheaper, so people go there instead.
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> So, now you have all these people who used to own businesses. Their stores went under, and what are they left to do? Work at Walmart. How much did they make before? Enough to keep the store open and survive, that’s for sure. But now that they work for Walmart, do you think walmart went “hey, we shut your store out of business. Just for that, we’ll pay you $30 an hour?”
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> no.
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> They get minimum wage, or close to it.
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> So now there are all these people who are making a fraction of what they used to. The storefronts where their businesses used to be? Vacant. The landlords who own those buildings? They can’t afford to pay their mortgage, just like I’m sure a lot of the former business owners no longer can. Properties go into disrepair and/or default. In turn, the town no longer gets the tax revenue from those businesses, the homes owned by the business owners, the buildings that housed the businesses, etc.
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> Decrease in tax revenue is what? a. great for the town, or b. very bad for the town (tax revenue, remember, is used for everything from schools to plowing).
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> So now you have a main street full of vacant store fronts, people who can’t afford to pay their bills, and a town that can’t afford to pay their bills.
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> Oh, walmart gave away food so they can defend themselves when people call them monsters.
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> Big fucking deal. They ruin lives.
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> Am I blowing this out of proportion? Read every fucking word I wrote before replying. Take a drive down to watkins glen. Remember that GIANT store that always had the Indian Cigar guy out front? Gone. Remember those 3 auto shops? Only 1 remains. The big hardware store? Gone. The other clothing shops? Only 1 remains.
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> There’s a real-case example of what it can do. And that’s not even getting into all the ripple effects. This shit happens all over the country, and all over the world.
> 
> Wal-mart is great? Fuck you.

Which is why my town and the surrounding 3 said no to Wal Mart and will not let them in. Granted most of the “store front’s” around here are coffee shops, spa’s, or bars.

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/53 "2008-11-25T10:00:48Z")

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> [@boxxa](#):
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> _snip_

I usually try and shy away from personal attacks. It’s rude and unbecoming. However I just can’t stay quiet. I see a lot of your posts, and I sort of feel bad. I mean, yeah, maybe life just dealt you a shitty hand and you’re a weird dude. But then I read threads like this and I realize there’s a reason you’re always posting weird shit that makes everyone picard. but how shortsighted, uninformed, and ignorant your opinion in this matter is, in addition to the way you present your argument far eclipses your opinion, I just wasn’t prepared for.

“Most ignorance is willful.” -Dr John Mohawk, RIP

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**Author:** ![blackout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@blackout](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blackout)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/54 "2008-11-25T10:50:32Z")

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No they aren’t… you, like every other American are too lazy to look elsewhere. You name one product that only walmart carries.

> [@Joe](#):
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> The funny thing about this thread: Everyone who’s studied economics in any kind of depth is on one side, and the unwashed masses are on the other.

Joe, I swear everything you have said in this thread came either came into my head just before you wrote it or I agree 100%  
There is no sense in explaining economics to 99% of the public because they still won’t get it.

> [@bigwoode](#):
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> I am indifferent to the subject, of course I would like to make a difference, but it is a group effort, a LARGE group effort… And once and awhile WalMart is the only place that carries the item that I am looking for, I shop there occasionally.

Name one item you can only find at Walmart…

As for the guys who say that a manufacturer shouldn’t just depend on Walmart. Some of them don’t have a choice. Walmart says “sell to us and we’ll guarantee you $XXX, Oh by the way you can only sell to us…” Now you can say that the manufacturer can choose not to deal with walmart but how does a company like rubbermaid just walk away from $XXX garanteed.

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**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/55 "2008-11-25T11:16:55Z")

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I HOPE THIS IS A REPORT::::

[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/)

FUCK WAL-MART [/caplocks]

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**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/56 "2008-11-25T11:20:13Z")

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Also,

if you havent worked for a supplier of Wal-Mart or similar companies it is not appropriate for you to comment.

Wal-Mart’s procurement practices HAVE to be mimicked by competitors in order to remain competitve on price. Therefore, distributors or retailers who once placed more value on relationship development with suppliers now have to forego that development and pursue hard net cost.

In that sense, Wal-Mart has a major impact on companies that do not supply Wal-Mart as well as those that do.

Wal-Mart’s ripple effect has a retardedly wide expanse

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/57 "2008-11-25T12:03:25Z")

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I just don’t see why peoples huge argument is that is pushes away business in mom and pop stores and that they only pay min wage or slighty higher.

First, Walmart has a huge distribution and logistics system that is the benefit that it brings its suppliers. If you are a business that only relies on Walmart to sell your products, you have problems and deserve to be run into the ground or bought out. Its a business stand point. They are doing shit right and run efficiently and that is why the government and military is trying to have a similar logistics system as a retail store. When more people are trying to save money, why the hell would you buy a 10 pack of t-shirts from Mom’s Clothing store at $9.99 when you can go to Walmart and buy the SAME product for less than half that. Everyone focuses on Walmart that they are doing this. How many people tell others every day “Oh go into Stereo Shop and look at a TV and then buy it online”? Its not just Walmart. Its a just stores run efficiently and run better and therefor has cheaper prices.

Also, they provide jobs in some communities where there is no real work. They don’t pay high wages becuase look at the job you are doing. They have retired persons and high schoolers who operate cash registers. They are not saving lives here.

The bottom line is they are a business and they are cutting costs and making a profit. They are not there to be nice. They do that by having cheap goods. Ya the donation might be a sleezy PR ploy to get good views in a holiday season but still, its a buinsess turning a profit.

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**Author:** ![v8oVeRVTEC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8797f3/32.png) [@v8oVeRVTEC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8oVeRVTEC)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/58 "2008-11-25T12:11:19Z")

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Walmart only pays minimum wage. No matter what, except for management postions (Which there are no women or blacks, try to find me either in any store you go to)

Walmart is anti-union  
Anyone suspected to be involved in union activity is fired  
When there is suspected union activity, corporate flies in on their multimillion dollar jet and takes over the store for several months, ELIMINATING anyone who is suspicious

The tax evading has been gone over.

Walmarts prices are cheap because they have thousands of employees in china working for 15cents a week. They make the chinese employees lie to the inspectors when they come in, otherwise they get fired. They have no choice but to listen because they have nothing else in life.

There is so much incredibly wrong with walmarts practices it is rediculous. Im sure other retailers do it as well, but they cannot get away with it to the extent that walmart has

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/59 "2008-11-25T12:28:35Z")

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> [@v8oVeRVTEC](#):
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> Walmart only pays minimum wage. No matter what, except for management postions (Which there are no women or blacks, try to find me either in any store you go to)
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> Walmart is anti-union  
> Anyone suspected to be involved in union activity is fired  
> When there is suspected union activity, corporate flies in on their multimillion dollar jet and takes over the store for several months, ELIMINATING anyone who is suspicious

I’ve dealt with unions for years. 90% of them are lazy, get paid way to much for the job, and cost companies more each year because of grievances and constant meetings and hearings all becuase of their union power in numbers. How a union using its size and power to get benefits and wages any different than Walmart using its size and power to get cheaper prices from its suppliers?

> [@v8oVeRVTEC](#):
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> The tax evading has been gone over.

First non arguable reason that Walmart is bad and I agree that they should be responsible for thier taxes.

> [@v8oVeRVTEC](#):
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> Walmarts prices are cheap because they have thousands of employees in china working for 15cents a week. They make the chinese employees lie to the inspectors when they come in, otherwise they get fired. They have no choice but to listen because they have nothing else in life.
> 
> There is so much incredibly wrong with walmarts practices it is rediculous. Im sure other retailers do it as well, but they cannot get away with it to the extent that walmart has

Ya. Over seas companies who have thier products made is just the new thing. Comapnies all over are doing it too as you said and people know it. Its no longer hidden information

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**Author:** ![v8oVeRVTEC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8797f3/32.png) [@v8oVeRVTEC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8oVeRVTEC)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/60 "2008-11-25T12:30:03Z")

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but they also arent the richest company in the world

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