# For your anti-walmart people **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 24, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700 "2008-11-24T13:38:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/101 "2008-11-25T15:14:58Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Unskilled jobs are leaving America…Nothing is going to change that as long its cheaper to produce things in other countries… > > Adjust your plans accordingly :lol: > > You guys act like this is something new…Its been heading that way for years now… I don’t see walmart being outsourced. Which is what this thread was about and why they need a union. ---
**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/102 "2008-11-25T15:16:51Z")
fuck walmart, the FREE PR they got was worth way more than the little bit of tax savings they could have. cold and calculating move if you ask me … ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/103 "2008-11-25T15:32:10Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > I don’t see walmart being outsourced. Which is what this thread was about and why they need a union. Really? OP: > [@boxxa"](#): > > All the people who hate on walmart and look past that they are a business trying to make money and using their massive distribution to get lower prices from their suppliers and tell everyone not to shop there might want to take a read of this: > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/us/19charity.html?\_r=2](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/us/19charity.html?_r=2) > > Walmart is donating 90 million lbs of food and NOT seeking a tax deduction on the donation. > > Not only are they helping a cause, they are also paying taxes…so I ask you, what is so bad about this company besides they pay min wage to people to operate a cash register full time and in most cases pay more than min wage. Don’t honestly try to make the point that 1.) Walmart isn’t outsourced - something like 70%+ of their goods are imported. Generally from rather harsh sources to boot. 2.) That retail space positions could be outsourced. I understand you want to make a point, but that’s just pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/104 "2008-11-25T15:33:43Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > Really? OP: > > Don’t honestly try to make the point that > 1.) Walmart isn’t outsourced - something like 70%+ of their goods are imported. Generally from rather harsh sources to boot. > 2.) That retail space positions could be outsourced. I understand you want to make a point, but that’s just pathetic. I;m talking about the positions in the store not the goods sold in it. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/105 "2008-11-25T15:36:55Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > I;m talking about the positions in the store not the good sold in it. > [@Nikuk](#): > > Really? OP: > > Don’t honestly try to make the point that > 1.) Walmart isn’t outsourced - something like 70%+ of their goods are imported. Generally from rather harsh sources to boot. > **2.) That retail space positions could be outsourced. I understand you want to make a point, but that’s just pathetic**. It scares me that you teach the youth. / ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/106 "2008-11-25T15:39:27Z")
How the fuck do you outsource a sales rep in the store? Do you hire illegals? ---
**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/107 "2008-11-25T16:09:33Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > How the fuck do you outsource a sales rep in the store? Do you hire illegals? There are plenty of things you can outsource in retail: Logistics (truck fleet/ drivers), Tech/Repair/Custodial (everything from cleaning the store to electricians to IT), outsourcing doesn’t necessarily mean “move jobs to India” just because you hear about that as a common example, it could just mean “hire contractor X” who you now don’t have to pay social security or medical (because in theory they have to for THEIR employees, but they usually employ part-timers as a loophole). ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/108 "2008-11-25T16:30:39Z")
> [@dmoffitt](#): > > There are plenty of things you can outsource in retail: Logistics (truck fleet/ drivers), Tech/Repair/Custodial (everything from cleaning the store to electricians to IT), outsourcing doesn’t necessarily mean “move jobs to India” just because you hear about that as a common example, it could just mean “hire contractor X” who you now don’t have to pay social security or medical (because in theory they have to for THEIR employees, but they usually employ part-timers as a loophole). I get that, I’m talking about the people in blue shirts in the store that restock the shelves, unlock the cases to get you the games, the ones on the registers, or mixes the paint in hardware, or assemble the bikes in toys and so on and so forth. How can you outsource those people? Answer: You can’t. And those are the people that I have been saying since this thread started that need a union because they get shit on by walmart. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/109 "2008-11-25T16:35:14Z")
I love the notion that working at Walmart can be a career. “You know you’re a redneck when…” ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/110 "2008-11-25T17:02:44Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > I love the notion that working at Walmart can be a career. > > “You know you’re a redneck when…” The problem is that or many it is… They don’t hire kids. ---
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/111 "2008-11-25T17:41:36Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > I guess the outcome here is that this country is fucked. Since MOST of the jobs in the country are unskilled and no one is willing to pay to make them worth living off of get ready to pay for these people through welfare. It’s not that companies “aren’t willing to pay” people to make a living off of their salaries. It’s the fact that they can’t pay them that much, or else they simply won’t be competitive with their rival companies who aren’t paying their workers enough to live on. The American consumer is 100% to blame, plain and simple. Whomever sells their shit the cheapest wins. The only way to sell shit dirt cheap is to underpay (cut payroll), outsource, etc… > For all of you that complain about welfare your not helping anything since you think there is no reason to give these people a livable wage. > I would say that for the most part, the concept of welfare is very good, it’s execution and enforcement is horrific. That is the part that everyone bitches about. There are cases in which it is very beneficial, but then there are hundreds more cases in which the people exploit it, and that needs to stop. > I guess you guys just want our country to be like Mexico since you admire their labor setup so much more over our own. Mexico sucks ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/112 "2008-11-25T17:56:00Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > The problem is that or many it is… > > They don’t hire kids. Those people should seek a career, not a job. There is a huge difference between the two. My roommate in college worked there when he was 20… ---
**Author:** ![blackout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@blackout](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blackout)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/113 "2008-11-25T17:59:56Z")
how can the richest retail store in the world not pay more than minimum wage…? rant below is just a list of facts… When I was a retail assistant manager I worked with mostly career retail associates. Only cashiers were teens. All of our non salaried associates made between 7.15 and 16 bucks an hour. Thats not just cashiers. Thats department managers, loss prevention, HR manager, cash management. Anyone making over 10 bucks an hour had been there 15 plus years. 30 years got you around 16 an hour. LP manager made 57k(12 years) Salaried managers made 32k(30 years) 36k(15years), 45k(40 years) and the store manager made 54k(20 years) Our entire non salaried salary was less than our two pharmacists made. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/114 "2008-11-26T06:22:11Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > Those people should seek a career, not a job. There is a huge difference between the two. > > My roommate in college worked there when he was 20… To bad it doesn’t count for most of the people they hire. Take a look at how many seniors they hire. > [@blackout](#): > > how can the richest retail store in the world not pay more than minimum wage…? > > rant below is just a list of facts… > When I was a retail assistant manager I worked with mostly career retail associates. Only cashiers were teens. All of our non salaried associates made between 7.15 and 16 bucks an hour. Thats not just cashiers. Thats department managers, loss prevention, HR manager, cash management. Anyone making over 10 bucks an hour had been there 15 plus years. 30 years got you around 16 an hour. LP manager made 57k(12 years) Salaried managers made 32k(30 years) 36k(15years), 45k(40 years) and the store manager made 54k(20 years) Our entire non salaried salary was less than our two pharmacists made. x2 Thank you. Most of the people arguing against a union don’t know anything about working at walmart and should simply stay out of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/115 "2008-11-26T06:25:25Z")
:lol: So now your argument is senior citizens who are under paid and also collect social security? Unions had their place…they are no longer needed… ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/116 "2008-11-26T06:32:13Z")
What do you think a union at walmart would accomplish? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/117 "2008-11-26T06:33:52Z")
same thing that they accomplished at GM? except the work is 1000x easier and the people hence 2000x lazier ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/118 "2008-11-26T06:44:29Z")
I don’t care if you think what Wal Mart does is right or wrong. The bottom line is they economically bloodlet the communities they move into, and funnel money out of our economy. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/119 "2008-11-26T06:45:35Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > I don’t care if you think what Wal Mart does is right or wrong. The bottom line is they economically bloodlet the communities they move into, and funnel money out of our economy. How is online shopping on the internet any different? ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-your-anti-walmart-people/58700/120 "2008-11-26T06:46:26Z")
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