# Ford 302 = Weak??? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 17, 2005, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393 "2005-05-17T13:08:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/21 "2005-05-17T18:57:35Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > girdle dont do shit!!! its to keep your parts together. it wont help a 302 block at all. the crack starts in the lifter valley. > > no the cobra block is totally different then a GT block. ok, i don’t know shit about fords, i was just making a generalized statement, but all the other stuff i said would still apply. ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/22 "2005-05-17T19:08:55Z")
girdles are nice for chevys. especially on a 2 bolt bolt. see a 302s internals are very strong. they can withstand alot of power but its our casting flaw thats the weak link ---
**Author:** ![vw16vcabby](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vw16vcabby/32/5943_2.png) [@vw16vcabby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vw16vcabby)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/23 "2005-05-17T19:15:14Z")
i have heard of the 302 splitting down the middle w/ around 500 hp too. i have yet to see it 1st hand, but im sure i will. But swhit, for as many bone stock 302’s i see bottle fed that run strong, i’d run the piss out of one too. as for the 4.6 4v-- they are basically an import motor-- dohc design w/ awesome head cfm flow. I would love to fuck w/ this motor. maybe in the future a mod motor might find its way into a t bucket or model a 🙂 but still slap a powerglide behind it. ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/24 "2005-05-17T20:13:30Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > see a 302s internals are very strong. :ugh2: sorry :nuts: I have seen more internal parts break on those motors than anything else ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/25 "2005-05-17T21:05:29Z")
ok 600hp sorry everything has a limit, also if abused shit will break ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/26 "2005-05-18T12:38:23Z")
4.6L 2v/3v (GT engine) good for about 450-500rwhp 4.6L 4v (Mach 1 engine) ~ 500-550rwhp 4.6L 4v (Cobra engine) ~1000rwhp 5.4L 4v (Ford GT engine) ~1500rwhp 5.7L/6.0L\* LS1/LS2/LS6 ~550-600rwhp \*not referring to the iron block… referring to the 6.0L LS2 ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/27 "2005-05-18T14:01:07Z")
Hate to go against redneck on this one (let alone agree with Quik), but 302 blocks are in fact shit. 500hp and the fuckers literally split in half right down the middle. ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/28 "2005-05-18T15:04:49Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > 4.6L 2v/3v (GT engine) good for about 450-500rwhp > 4.6L 4v (Mach 1 engine) ~ 500-550rwhp > 4.6L 4v (Cobra engine) ~1000rwhp > 5.4L 4v (Ford GT engine) ~1500rwhp > 5.7L/6.0L\* LS1/LS2/LS6 ~550-600rwhp > > \*not referring to the iron block… referring to the 6.0L LS2 aluminun block ls1 have seen 1000hp ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/29 "2005-05-18T15:28:56Z")
but still, a reliable 450hp 302 is gonna make respectable times at the track :boink ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/30 "2005-05-18T17:59:52Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > aluminun block ls1 have seen 1000hp > [@Rustang JIM](#): > > but still, a reliable 450hp 302 is gonna make respectable times at the track :boink agreed 🍺 ---
**Author:** ![venom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8c91f0/32.png) [@venom](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/venom)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/31 "2005-05-18T18:17:13Z")
> [@Rustang JIM](#): > > ask venom, I forget his numbers somewhere around 500hp. His block split in the 93 cobra > > 538 RWHP, and so far everything is ok so far. last year’s blowup turned out to be only headgaskets…i know a full meltdown/split is coming this year. :burnout: ---
**Author:** ![raverjames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@raverjames](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raverjames)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/32 "2005-05-18T19:05:21Z")
I guess know I know, and knowledge is power. 4.6L Cobra engine is good and the 302 is bad. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/33 "2005-05-18T19:08:04Z")
> [@raverjames](#): > > I guess know I know, and knowledge is power. 4.6L Cobra engine is good and the 302 is bad. just do yourself a favor and stay away from Ford altogether ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/34 "2005-05-18T19:17:13Z")
yeah… get a 4g63 where chunks of the block break off ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/35 "2005-05-18T19:25:13Z")
> [@BlkP42E](#): > > yeah… get a 4g63 where chunks of the block break off do i hear a mutha fuckin :owned: ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/36 "2005-05-18T19:41:02Z")
i thought the 4.6 aluminum block was good to 1200 hp + ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/37 "2005-05-18T20:31:00Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > aluminun block ls1 have seen 1000hp not stock, the block may hold the power, but the pistons/rods will take a shit way before that ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/38 "2005-05-18T20:31:18Z")
> [@HaNnIBaL64](#): > > i thought the 4.6 aluminum block was good to 1200 hp + block yes, not the pistons/rods ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/39 "2005-05-18T20:33:14Z")
Block in the 4v 4.6L Cobra version is good till about 2000hp it’s an 8 Bolt main design. The crank has been tested up to about 1800. Pistons/Rods little over 1000hp. As for it being an import motor? Youre actually wrong, Ford actually invented the first practical use OHC engine. And have used them since the 60’s the 4.6/5.4L Triton motors were designed in house by Ford, originally for the F Series trucks. Theyre modular in the sense of being able to interchange parts between the different sizes for different applications EX: Cams from a SOHC 4.6 can be used on an SOHC 5.4 Heads from a DOHC 5.4 can be used on a DOHC 4.6 but can’t go SOHC \> DOHC ---
**Author:** ![raverjames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@raverjames](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raverjames)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393/40 "2005-05-18T21:38:14Z")
> [@BlkP42E](#): > > yeah… get a 4g63 where chunks of the block break off I dont like the 4g63 too much. I was always an SR20DET fan. Stock bottom end on that engine can handly 525+ whp and when built they have hit 700+. Sad that a 2L can do that but Fords 5L cant. The 4.6L does seem impressive though. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-302-weak/174393.md?page=3)