# Ford|GM Merger **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 19, 2008, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740 "2008-11-19T10:19:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/41 "2008-11-19T19:44:02Z")
> [@AMD Phenom X4 retail prices surface](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amd-phenom-x4-retail-prices-surface/38753/10): > > holy fuk they still have that thing :eek: > get a picture of it. > > šŸ¤£ get a f ucking room you faggots. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/42 "2008-11-19T20:19:04Z")
> [@Looks like we should drive everywhere](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looks-like-we-should-drive-everywhere/38780/7): > > get a f ucking room you faggots. already did. this is the next day conversation. ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/43 "2008-11-20T05:14:09Z")
Epic Fail: [http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/19/autos.ceo.jets/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/19/autos.ceo.jets/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![SP71Supra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sp71supra/32/5955_2.png) [@SP71Supra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SP71Supra)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/44 "2008-11-20T05:37:29Z")
> [@RX400H \> Cobalt SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rx400h-cobalt-ss/38762/10): > > šŸ¤£ Only you would think that bringing back the Oldsmobile name would save the American auto industry! šŸ¤£ x5000ā€¦ silly Cuttyā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/45 "2008-11-20T05:46:15Z")
> [@Escalade Hybrid\*\*TAHOE HYBRID PRICES\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/escalade-hybrid-tahoe-hybrid-prices/38756/16): > > They are nice if you are part of a union. You get to work at half speed, can do whatever the hell you want and not worry about getting fired, and generally do nothing at work and get paid well to do it. > > On the flip side, employers have to pay a crapload of money for subpar work and be excected to stay competitive. > > Itā€™s the reason the Port Authority is going under and why the auto manufacturers are going under. [http://mises.org/story/2124](http://mises.org/story/2124) [http://captkarl.blogivists.com/2008/11/19/gm-forklift-driver-wages-10300000-per-year-soon-from-our-paychecks/](http://captkarl.blogivists.com/2008/11/19/gm-forklift-driver-wages-10300000-per-year-soon-from-our-paychecks/) ---
**Author:** ![obi-1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@obi-1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/obi-1)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/46 "2008-11-20T05:50:25Z")
> [@Looking to get into snowboarding hahahahha](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-get-into-snowboarding-hahahahha/38785/6): > > Epic Fail: [Big Three auto CEOs flew private jets to ask for taxpayer money - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/19/autos.ceo.jets/index.html) > couldnā€™t you all have downgraded to first class or jet-pooled or something to get here? It would have at least sent a message that you do get it. jet-pooled. šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/47 "2008-11-20T07:07:11Z")
> [@Looking to get into snowboarding hahahahha](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-get-into-snowboarding-hahahahha/38785/9): > > jet-pooled. šŸ¤£ I see how all these articles come up about people flying to here and there with private jets but really, wtf you want them to come in? Thats like telling the president Air Force one is gone and done with, and now all you will be taxied around in is a Winnebago (thats runs on bio diesel). These people will ALWAYS have tons of money, im not agreeing or disagreeing with this bailout but im just in argument towards this article. ---
**Author:** ![obi-1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@obi-1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/obi-1)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/48 "2008-11-20T07:47:00Z")
> [@Thanksgivin eve? Where ya goin?! 21+](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thanksgivin-eve-where-ya-goin-21/38779/27): > > I see how all these articles come up about people flying to here and there with private jets but really, wtf you want them to come in? Thats like telling the president Air Force one is gone and done with, and now all you will be taxied around in is a Winnebago (thats runs on bio diesel). These people will ALWAYS have tons of money, im not agreeing or disagreeing with this bailout but im just in argument towards this article. Oh, I agree with you. Those people are important to the company. You need to make sure they are safe and can continue to work and be productive while travelling. Itā€™s easy to justify cost when that guy makes millions of dollars per year. You donā€™t want to lose a dayā€™s work. I just pictured 3 ceoā€™s meeting on the tarmac with their brown bag lunches and one of them saying - alright, weā€™ll take my jet to DC and you guys pitch in for fuel. Made me laughā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Blackbelt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackbelt/32/5998_2.png) [@Blackbelt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackbelt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/49 "2008-11-20T08:10:49Z")
> [@To teach a man to fish...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-teach-a-man-to-fish/38781/23): > > You need to make sure they are safe and can continue to work and be productive while travelling. ā€¦ Be productive doing what? Driving their companies into bankruptcy?šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/50 "2008-11-20T09:47:17Z")
im obviously bias but olds was always the innovative division of GM. Cutlass was the #1 selling car for a long time. iā€™m saying olds would save GM but its a hell of a lot better option than saab or saturn. i mean really if you are looking for a euro sedan where would u have saab on ur listā€¦ there are so many other options. i dont even know how a company like that stays in business. Maybe George Carlin should have said ā€œthese words have never been said beforeā€¦ Gee I need a new car, i think Iā€™ll buy a new saabā€ i have never heard anyone say they want a saab, iā€™ve never heard anyone even mention saab. ---
**Author:** ![PoisonousBeef](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poisonousbeef/32/6007_2.png) [@PoisonousBeef](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PoisonousBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/51 "2008-11-20T10:08:06Z")
The average hourly wage for Detroit is $73.20, but the average hourly wage at Toyota USA is $48. UAW has surely played a role, though the myopia of all 3 companies for the last 10+ years certainly hasnā€™t help. Unions in concept are good. A lot of the people in unions are bad. I know union workers who bust their ass and end up hating their job because they know the guy next to them is taking a nap in his truck, because he knows he can. Also, Saturn Sky = sex. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/52 "2008-11-20T10:14:31Z")
> [@To teach a man to fish...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/to-teach-a-man-to-fish/38781/29): > > i have never heard anyone say they want a saab, iā€™ve never heard anyone even mention saab. Further proving how classy your life must be. Saab people are Saab people. They only buy Saabs. I was under the impression everyone knew at least one or two Saab people. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/53 "2008-11-20T10:38:42Z")
> [@Scooter](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/scooter/38668/15): > > Further proving how classy your life must be. > > Saab people are Saab people. They only buy Saabs. I was under the impression everyone knew at least one or two Saab people. what does knowing someone that wants a saab have anything to do with class. well my sister owned a volvo am i yuppie by association? but again who are these saab people? i dont ever see them on the road. ---
**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/54 "2008-11-20T10:39:22Z")
I want a Saabā€¦ an '02 Saab 9-3 Viggen. My mom has a '02 Saab 9-3 Vert/5 speed (its her second one, had a '99 first), been a good car so far. Donā€™t know much about the 03+ Saabs. ---
**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/55 "2008-11-20T10:55:48Z")
> [@Assassin's Creed : Cheap](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/assassins-creed-cheap/38710/8): > > well my sister owned a volvo am i yuppie by association? Yes, although an illegitimate one driving an archaic ghetto-sled. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/56 "2008-11-20T11:02:57Z")
Bwahaha ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/57 "2008-11-20T11:03:50Z")
> [@LMAO - Some chick tries to cyber me at work (foreal)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lmao-some-chick-tries-to-cyber-me-at-work-foreal/38752/20): > > The average hourly wage for Detroit is $73.20, but the average hourly wage at Toyota USA is $48. UAW has surely played a role, though the myopia of all 3 companies for the last 10+ years certainly hasnā€™t help. > > Unions in concept are good. A lot of the people in unions are bad. I know union workers who bust their ass and end up hating their job because they know the guy next to them is taking a nap in his truck, because he knows he can. > > Also, Saturn Sky = sex. Itā€™s a very intricate web and you canā€™t just say that all Unions are bad in general, because they arenā€™t. Those rates, take into account, management and CEO type of positions. There needs to be a balance, all these companies are top heavy. Unions, serve a good purpose, they defend the worker. Yeah, there are some lazy people, that happens in any job. There needs to be a fine balance between profitability and labor laws and CEO salaries. People have gotten greedy, management doesnā€™t know how to manage. We need good employers, which starts from the top. How is it that we in the USA work more then everywhere else in the world, but make less money on average per hour worked? ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/58 "2008-11-20T11:41:12Z")
> [@Can i hook up a car cd changer without a headunit?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-i-hook-up-a-car-cd-changer-without-a-headunit/38789/3): > > Itā€™s a very intricate web and you canā€™t just say that all Unions are bad in general, because they arenā€™t. > > Those rates, take into account, management and CEO type of positions. There needs to be a balance, all these companies are top heavy. Unions, serve a good purpose, they defend the worker. Yeah, there are some lazy people, that happens in any job. There needs to be a fine balance between profitability and labor laws and CEO salaries. People have gotten greedy, management doesnā€™t know how to manage. We need good employers, which starts from the top. > > How is it that we in the USA work more then everywhere else in the world, but make less money on average per hour worked? because the rich just want to keep getting richer, no matter how much wealth they suck out of the economy. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/59 "2008-11-20T11:44:56Z")
> [@FS- 97 Cavalier 500 firm asap "updated"](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-97-cavalier-500-firm-asap-updated/36321/37): > > because the rich just want to keep getting richer, no matter how much wealth they suck out of the economy. should be fair for everyone right??? maybe it should be like monopoly, everyone gets $200 šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740/60 "2008-11-20T11:52:44Z")
Darkstar, not that Iā€™m complaining, but you are definitely sounding like a liberal lately. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-gm-merger/200740.md?page=4)