# Ford \[Now GM\] Stops Making Cars **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [April 26, 2018, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399 "2018-04-26T06:53:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/1 "2018-04-26T06:53:14Z")
… Except for the Mustang & “Focus Active” (Chinese import), everything else they make will be an SUV or Corssover: > Dropping out of the sedan business in the United States is a momentous shift for Ford. Just a decade ago, the Focus compact and the midsize Fusion spearheaded a push to provide stylish and fuel-efficient cars as gasoline prices were rising. > But Americans are abandoning sedans and choosing trucks and S.U.V.s. Mr. Shanks said the business lines losing money were mainly smaller vehicles. Within a few years, Ford will offer only two cars in the United States: the Mustang sports car and a new Focus variant with the shape of an S.U.V., Mr. Hackett said. Fiat Chrysler dropped its small and midsize cars in North America two years ago, and has prospered by ramping up sales of trucks and Jeeps. > Ford is planning to introduce several new trucks and S.U.V.s over the next three years. They will be available as both gasoline- and battery-powered versions. > **[Ford Will Drop Focus and Fusion Sedans in North America (Published 2018)](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/business/ford-earnings.html)** > > The automaker is accelerating efforts to slash costs in a bid to turn around its fortunes both at home and abroad. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/2 "2018-04-26T06:58:12Z")
Terrible business decision that’s going to leave them in bad shape when gas prices inevitably start rising again. Not to mention Ford sold 209k Fusions vs only 158k Focuses in 2017. I’d be willing to bet there’s more profit in a Fusion than a Focus too. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/3 "2018-04-26T07:07:36Z")
Crossover SUVs have definitely been eating up the midsized car market though. You can do 25-30mpg in an Escape, so why bother with a fusion? ---
**Author:** ![seth13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/seth13/32/8038_2.png) [@seth13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/seth13)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/4 "2018-04-26T07:19:00Z")
Not smart on Ford’s part. This will shift focus away from the brand entirely for those who aren’t buying an F-150 or an SUV. This also is a disaster for enthusiasts who don’t want to drive a mustang. Kiss the Fiesta ST (This was going anyway), Focus ST, and Focus RS goodbye for our market. This response is the exact opposite of brands such as Honda. Instead of pulling out of cars entirely, Honda brought back the Civic hatch and made an Accord so nice that it is impossible to ignore. Now give me an AWD Accord Sport wagon, Honda. Think Volvo V90, but more affordable. ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/5 "2018-04-26T08:42:28Z")
I think this will hurt ford less than it will help other car manufacturers. If they were losing money on the car division why not ax it and focus on the products you do so well with. All they were doing were cannibalizing sales that will now got to Gm, honda, nissan etc. GMC is one of GMs most profitable division, I see ford becoming similar to that business model. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/6 "2018-04-26T12:24:28Z")
They have the new Ranger and Bronco on the way. I think they’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/7 "2018-04-26T12:42:56Z")
The Fusion is the biggest piece of shithole cunt smear of a vehicle I have ever driven. ---
**Author:** ![buffalo\_vr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@buffalo\_vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/buffalo_vr4)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/8 "2018-04-26T14:47:32Z")
on a side note, Honda should really get out of truck market, their ridgeline is getting uglier and uglier. Don’t know what it’s with the look of ridgeline, it just looks really unproportional. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/9 "2018-04-26T20:01:29Z")
> Here’s when Ford will end production of its cars: > -May 2018: Focus > -March 2019: Taurus > -May 2019: Fiesta > Fusion will stick around for at least a couple more years. Focus Active will be imported from China starting in mid-2019. [https://twitter.com/MikeMartinez\_AN/status/989621682397761546](https://twitter.com/MikeMartinez_AN/status/989621682397761546) ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/10 "2018-04-26T21:13:18Z")
> The company is considering plans to eliminate the Chevrolet Volt hybrid, the Buick LaCrosse, Cadillac CT6, Cadillac XTS, Chevrolet Impala and Chevrolet Sonic, according to Reuters. GM following suit… ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/11 "2018-04-26T21:57:45Z")
I’m just glad the new Ranger will be nice and compact like the old one, oh wait it’s like 3/4" shorter than an F150. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/12 "2018-04-27T10:22:35Z")
People like small cars because they are fuel efficient, that won’t matter in a few years when pretty much all passenger vehicles are electric. I said I would never buy an SUV but then Porsche made the Cayenne, Vehicles have evolved and cars are not as desirable as they once were. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/13 "2018-04-27T11:49:45Z")
Now that I’m sitting here thinking about it, I would never buy another sedan again, more than likely. UNLESS it’s a desirable sport sedan or something that I want as a “cool” car. Other than that, small crossover SUVs are the best of both worlds. Roomy, efficient, easy to drive, etc… ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/14 "2018-04-27T12:52:38Z")
Hmm… I’ve worked on batteries for some of these future programs at Ford for three years now. I don’t think fuel economy will be much of an issue – most everything will have a hybrid variant, or a plugin, or electric. I think Ford’s bigger threat is an economy that might sag in the next few years. With that said, I’m leaving Ford to hike the Appalachian Trail this year. xD ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/15 "2018-04-27T14:55:46Z")
As someone who is on his third leased Lincoln and loves the Lincoln lineup right now I really hope this is only the Ford line. Even still it is a dumb decision. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/16 "2018-04-30T12:51:16Z")
We’re all going to be driving EVs made in China in 20 years anyway. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/17 "2018-04-26T07:11:37Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Terrible business decision that’s going to leave them in bad shape when gas prices inevitably start rising again. Eh, I don’t think so. You’re assuming fuel economy stays worse for CUV & SUVs and doesn’t improve. They’ve said they’re bringing hybrid tech to everything. > Not to mention Ford sold 209k Fusions vs only 158k Focuses in 2017. I’d be willing to bet there’s more profit in a Fusion than a Focus too. From what I’ve read, it looks like there is no profit in either and they lose money on both the Fusion & Focus. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/18 "2018-04-26T15:12:52Z")
No cars are stamped in buffalo luckily - - - Updated - - - > [@Motocrossx23](#): > > The Fusion is the biggest piece of shithole cunt smear of a vehicle I have ever driven. LOL you drive a rental? they have huge fleets which is another reason im surprised ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/19 "2018-04-26T16:43:40Z")
> [@buffalo\_vr4](#): > > on a side note, Honda should really get out of truck market, their ridgeline is getting uglier and uglier. Don’t know what it’s with the look of ridgeline, it just looks really unproportional. i totally agree with this but then i keep seeing them on the road and i cannot understand why people are buying them. i like the Ford product actually, even the Fusion when i used to use it as a rental on occasion. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399/20 "2018-04-26T18:47:30Z")
> [@ubengineering](#): > > LOL you drive a rental? they have huge fleets which is another reason im surprised It’s my wife’s, we just traded in today for a new Nissan Rogue SV. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-now-gm-stops-making-cars/860399.md?page=2)