# Ford plant in Brazil **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 5, 2008, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923 "2008-05-05T09:02:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/1 "2008-05-05T09:02:54Z")
This video is from last year but I couldn’t find any threads. This is a video of a new Ford plant in Camacari, Brazil. One look at this and you will instantly be able to tell what is wrong with the manufacturing plants of the US car makers and why there will probably never be another one built in the U.S. It will also point out why more will go off-shore to escape the spiral death grip of U.S. unions. Sad but true. _[http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189](http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189)_ ---
**Author:** ![RedrRocket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrrocket/32/7193_2.png) [@RedrRocket](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedrRocket)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/2 "2008-05-05T09:12:55Z")
im proud of ma americun cur. none of that forign crap. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/3 "2008-05-05T09:14:30Z")
BUT THE PROFITS GO TO THE USA ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/4 "2008-05-05T09:16:40Z")
thats awsome. Too bad its so difficult to change the mindsets of americans. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/5 "2008-05-05T09:19:24Z")
Profits may come to the US, but only to those with a steak in the company. Its not generating employment. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/6 "2008-05-05T09:21:55Z")
[quote=“drvnkd,post:5,topic:47923"”] Profits may come to the US, but only to those with a steak in the company. Its not generating employment. [/quote] I’m just kidding about the profits, but thats what all of my friends parents say to me when I have to explain why I don’t own a Ford. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/7 "2008-05-05T09:22:06Z")
Yep, workforce with a lower quality of life will work cheaper. Plus Ford gets to automate lots of stuff and not pay as many workers. Until they Unionize and their quality of life comes up to the point that they’re not the cheapest. Then the factories move. After South America and Asia comes Africa. They’ll be the cheapest for a long time thanks to things like the AIDS. Good thing our government made that shit back in the 1950’s. We’ll have a cheap place to have things made for at least our entire lifetimes. Wait, what? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/8 "2008-05-05T09:23:48Z")
I work in development for the auto industry and a good portion of our production castings/machining’s are all done is brazil. It’s too expensive to do business in America… sad but true. Unfortunately nobody (Unions and politicians) seems to understand this and probably never will until they’re out of a job/industry entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/9 "2008-05-05T09:26:53Z")
They all understand it. They’re all just trying to get theirs before it leaves. I can’t really blame them, other than their claiming that it’s anything but that is pretty annoying. We’re going to strike on a bankrupt company! We deserve more for contributing to the success! Uhh, you mean failure? ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/10 "2008-05-05T09:39:13Z")
Ford has had plants in brazil for a few decades… :fyi: ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/11 "2008-05-05T09:43:41Z")
Its hard to argue for unions. Unions are supposed to make employment better for the employees not them selfs. I think it is a generational problem. The young-ins running companies have parents with good jobs, benefits etc… They have no appreciation for what the older generation tried so hard to get. “one generation plants a tree so the next will have shade” - ?? Nowadays, “the tree was in the way of the my satellite TV, and it made a little more work for me so I cut down all of them. I cant miss my shows, and I would rather play video games than think about anything other than my own needs this very moment.” - me ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/12 "2008-05-05T09:50:25Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > Ford has had plants in brazil for a few decades… :fyi: I know but, the point is they built the latest one there and it is very lean. Do they have any plans to build one like that here? ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/13 "2008-05-05T09:53:45Z")
No idea… no videos at work. ---
**Author:** ![SVT3945](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/svt3945/32/7409_2.png) [@SVT3945](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SVT3945)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/14 "2008-05-05T09:54:47Z")
UAW = voting itself right out of existance ---
**Author:** ![rdandy5875](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rdandy5875/32/7511_2.png) [@rdandy5875](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rdandy5875)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/15 "2008-05-05T09:57:58Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > I know but, the point is they built the latest one there and it is very lean. > Do they have any plans to build one like that here? Says right in the video that they would like to but the unoins are against that kind of supplier integration… UAW FTL. I’m sorry, but if you screw in the same 3 bolts all day, you shouldn’t be at $60k+/year. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/16 "2008-05-05T10:01:03Z")
I’m typically pro union (considering I’m in one) but the UAW can suck my balls. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/17 "2008-05-05T10:07:13Z")
As that video is cool, they aren’t doing anything new in it. The Toyota plant I worked at has very similar processes and has been doing so for many years. We rolled a car off the line every 60 seconds on the Toyota side, and for the Lexus RX330 it was about every 2.5 minutes because of the added inspection processes. But, that plant is in Canada, not the US. Things like this make me seriously consider moving out of the country after I graduate. Other markets are booming and offering a ton of opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/18 "2008-05-05T10:49:53Z")
> [@rdandy5875](#): > > UAW FTL. I’m sorry, but if you screw in the same 3 bolts all day, you shouldn’t be at $60k+/year. Absolutely true. The uaw was set up with good intentions, to provide for people that were performing back breaking labor when no one else was there to stick up for them… Now they do less work and make huge amounts of money to do esentially nothing. Im sorry but if you want to make decent money go to college. I only have my associates and i don’t expect to make much more than im making right now untill i have a bachelors or a masters. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/19 "2008-05-05T10:49:57Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > They all understand it. They’re all just trying to get theirs before it leaves. I can’t really blame them, other than their claiming that it’s anything but that is pretty annoying. What part of the UAW not allowing various supplier integration under 1 roof did you miss? ---
**Author:** ![JCuz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jcuz/32/7338_2.png) [@JCuz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JCuz)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923/20 "2008-05-05T11:04:11Z")
while toyota is building this down in Mississippi, I saw its mid-construction last weekend and it is huge [http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-02-27-toyota-plant\_x.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-02-27-toyota-plant_x.htm) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ford-plant-in-brazil/47923.md?page=2)