# Forget the LS1 swap FD, FDSM is way cooler! - Update post 152! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 19, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326 "2009-08-19T09:42:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Detective\_Coating](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/detective_coating/32/5319_2.png) [@Detective\_Coating](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Detective_Coating)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/21 "2009-08-19T12:40:29Z")
I believe I saw this at the Shootout last year. Very quick car! ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/22 "2009-08-19T12:42:08Z")
> [@neonglh](#): > > It’s annoying when people at the track try to tell me how their times were so good because they cut a .650 reaction time -\_- It’s also annoying when people run single digit passes with 3.650 reaction times. Can’t anyone stage properly? The car might as well be a dyno queen. _edit_ Oh yeah, and on a pro tree, the r/t is factored in. ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/23 "2009-08-19T13:24:50Z")
> [@Cavi Mike](#): > > _edit_ Oh yeah, and on a pro tree, the r/t is factored in. Not it doesn’t… You’re confusing ET with winning the race. First person to cross the line wins, pro tree, regular tree, whatever. But never does the r/t affect the ET. example: John beat stry the other night at a regular .500 tree, John went 11.1, stry went 10.8. r/t was way better, but the ET was still slower. ---
**Author:** ![challengermike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/challengermike/32/5106_2.png) [@challengermike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/challengermike)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/24 "2009-08-19T15:49:32Z")
Reaction time can can only affect you if you both run what you diaded in at,and then the slower reaction time will lose.My car has a converter in it that is awfull to try to get my turbo to spool up.(way to tight).So i have to sit there almost 12 seconds to get to 10-12 lbs of boost.So i try to stage before the other car does so we can leave at the same time.It runs the same times if i leave on time or 3-4 seconds after the tree comes down. ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/25 "2009-08-19T15:57:49Z")
But your car sounds sick sitting there building up boost. ---
**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/26 "2009-08-19T16:06:22Z")
That car is tits :tup: I can’t imagine the popularity of FDs if they actually had a kickass engine. People are in love with these things, and the motors fucking suck. ---
**Author:** ![Jskrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jskrapper/32/7570_2.png) [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/27 "2009-08-19T16:17:22Z")
Should have SHO’ed it! I kid. Awesome car though. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/28 "2009-08-19T16:19:08Z")
^ lol ---
**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/29 "2009-08-19T16:34:39Z")
very cool, I know there were a bunch of FC chassis rx7’s doing this, but this is the first time I’ve seen it done in the FD. That thing moves out pretty well :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/30 "2009-08-19T16:45:56Z")
Fuck the FD, that setup should have been in a Pinto. ---
**Author:** ![dftsilvia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dftsilvia/32/7447_2.png) [@dftsilvia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dftsilvia)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/31 "2009-08-20T17:07:29Z")
gay 4g63 is about as reliable as a rotary ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/32 "2009-08-20T18:18:33Z")
> [@dftsilvia](#): > > gay 4g63 is about as reliable as a rotary Pretty gay motor indeed. I guess 18 years on the job is a fluke right??? Or maybe “in production” is a better choice of words. ---
**Author:** ![94excivic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94excivic/32/5263_2.png) [@94excivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94excivic)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/33 "2009-08-20T19:05:24Z")
Yeahh…I have a 19 year old bone stock 4g63 with over 100000 miles running 21 psi…daily driven… ---
**Author:** ![Sansone](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sansone/32/4970_2.png) [@Sansone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sansone)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/34 "2009-08-20T19:21:41Z")
4g63 :tdown: ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/35 "2009-08-20T19:29:26Z")
i’d still rock an fd even with a rotary, super hawt cars ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/36 "2009-08-21T08:41:52Z")
> [@Studderin](#): > > [http://www.camarohomepage.com/ls3/index.htm](http://www.camarohomepage.com/ls3/index.htm) > > LS3 is one bad hunk of foil EXCELLENT read. :tup: GM builds some serious iron. ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/37 "2009-08-21T14:10:02Z")
> [@dftsilvia](#): > > gay 4g63 is about as reliable as a rotary I guess my car is a fluke then, since it only sees 7500 rpm daily at full boost :lol: ---
**Author:** ![nytalonTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nytalontsi/32/5399_2.png) [@nytalonTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nytalonTSi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/38 "2009-08-21T20:14:57Z")
Thats a built 4g64 inside. A 4g63t is a total beast. The motor wasn’t the problem in dsms, it was the owners and parts breaking. ---
**Author:** ![dftsilvia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dftsilvia/32/7447_2.png) [@dftsilvia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dftsilvia)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/39 "2009-08-22T08:20:55Z")
dsm’s still suck nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Jskrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jskrapper/32/7570_2.png) [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/40 "2009-08-22T08:31:58Z")
> [@dftsilvia](#): > > dsm’s still suck nuts. lol. :gtfo: 8 sex 1/4’s sux nuts y0, and drifting gets dem hoez. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326.md?page=3)